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**sdkgeo** · 07-21-2016, 06:17 AM

Morning all. It looks like Tiffany is on her way out the door. There was no way she was going to get the votes because of the way people are paired up. She didn't have anybody she could say she would put up next week if she won HoH. They are all too intertwined.

I have to wonder if the HGs actually see a path to the end for themselves or if they're just on the anybody but me train. James at least should know better. You have to plan to have numbers when you need them to get out the power alliance.

**TTOTambz** · 07-21-2016, 06:40 AM

Good Morning Geo, Ken, Luanne, All who kept me company last night on the boards, and all who follow:
Good Morning All,

Well to say it was a very busy night in the BB house is putting too fine of a point on it. I opined on much of the action and even jumped into Live Feed Updates so everyone could catch up with the action.

I think I was just so excited to be able to literally see some semblance of BB being played instead of waiting for Nicole to hand out roses it got me amped up!

To summarize:

* Nicole, Frank and Corey spent the better portion of the day trying to influence and cajole votes for Tiff to stay and Da to leave.

*Paulie remained steadfast in his goals.

*At one point today Corey told Frank he and Nicole will vote out Da and force Paulie to decide what side he is on (for realz!)

*Nicole lobbied hard to get Da out, but can't get any of James/Z/Mich/Paul to go along and does not want people to be mad at her and incredibly placed the entire blame on James (???) for this decision

*Frank ascended to the Paulie Pit to explain why Da needed to leave, pissing off Paulie in the process for discussing game points in front of Paul. He also indirectly admitted at one point to targeting Paulie/Corey

*During the above conversation Corey was adamantly on Frank's side trying to push Paulie in that direction. (who was NOT amused)

*Frank told the guys the reason Da has to go:

she is after him
can't be trusted
and his biggest concern is that Da can't make jury because if a girl gets to the end she'll try to influence the jury to vote for her

* After Frank left Paulie (annoyed by Corey) tried to make him understand the reasoning of Frank meant he was directly doing what he had done before - - playing a selfish game and he via his main point is telling them he has no intention on taking a guy to the end. In reality this was a very astute observation from Paulie

*Corey agreed at this point to vote out Tiff (see below as he again tells Frank something different)

*Nicole and Tiff spent time talking-- each telling truths and lies about Da. The most hypocritical of which was Nicole saying if she had a F2 with someone (she does with Da remember) she would never throw them under the bus & would go out of her way to keep that person's name out of people's mouths. Tiffany was in full agreement. (okay so this is Nic who has been after Da since week 1 and Tiff who just blew up her all of her alliances) Do they not recognize how they sound?

* Also noteworthy was Bridgette calling all the girls mean girls and how her/Tiff are the only nice girls in the house. Brig stating we will go back to our lives AND THEY WILL BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES: Eyebrow shave or jewelry toss anyone? The irony here is Frank tells Brig they may have to take out Tiff ext week and she simply says ok!

* Also, after talking to Nicole for an extended period of time while Nicole dissed on her favorite subject (Da) Tiff downloaded to Brig and they both commented on how shocked they are Nic is all in on the showmance again & they can't believe it. Tiff also took away from the convo how cunning Nicole is (so she does know Da was right about a lot of things)

*Michelle and Nat had a fun filled evening worthy of viewing b/c they were laughing so hard they had trouble catching their breath. While all this drama was going on around them it was cool to be reminded some people can have a genuinely good time

*Corey & James talked, then Nicole & James then the trio with James saying Da won't win anything & taking out Tiff cripples Frank so they ALL AGREED to vote out Tiff

*Then Nic/Corey went to deliver the news to Frank who REFUSED to believe the votes weren't there or that Nic/Corey didn't want to go against the house.

He asked Nic to lie to Mich which Nicole wasn't comfortable with.
It was a long conversation with Frank getting more and more aggravated (b/c he can't tell Nic why he doesn't want Da in jury).
It's in the updates that I posted this morning.
At the end of the conversation Frank doesn't come right out and say he will bully people but his intention is clear .. he will lie/bully or do whatever he has to with Paul, James and Michelle today to FORCE them to vote out DaVonne.
Corey continued to tell Frank he is on board with him (which should make for an interesting day and SHOULD have a very interesting effect on his relationship with Paulie

The fall out of this conversation is Frank absolutely refuses to give in on this vote. While I can't guarantee I suspect Corey caused a ton of damage to his/Nicole's game last night. BECAUSE today Frank will tell James what they said (Nicole especially put all the blame on him) & he will tell Paulie the same (read: Paulie/James are the only ones against this .. Frank will definitely sell NiCor down the river today).

*Speaking of which, believing he had put the vote to bed Paulie told Tiff he advised Frank if he got the split he would vote out Da. When Paulie learns (from Frank) that Nicole/Corey told him they want Da gone & James/Paulie are the ones holding up the vote (and you know he will) Paulie is going to get pretty angry at NiCor

I suspect this is all going to lead to either a 6-2 (possibly 6-3 vote if Corey remains resolute) or an 8-0 vote for Tiff to leave.
James is unaware Nic/Cor put everything on him (or he will be until Frank tells him.. which we should expect at some point today)

Other Notables:

Corey and Nicole are not even trying to hide their affection for each other any longer to the point the house is FULLY aware of how close they have become and their target b/c of it is GROWING DAILY. This is just my gut instinct but....

The fact Michelle told Nat that Da won't target her, James or Nat (and spent most of the night laughing/hanging with Nat) speaks to Michelle is keenly aware of the pairings occurring in the house. She has always been observant but Nicole is over playing her hand to the point that IMO Mich is now seeing what Da was talking about. Specifically:

All she hears is Zakiyah & Nicole talk about their relationships
Nicole pushed hard for her to make up with Tiff (who Michelle rightly or wrongly feels betrayed by as it was Da/Her who were the instigators to keep Tiff... NOT Nic)
She sees Nic/Cor constantly talking and hanging with Frank
She sees how close Paulie/Paul have grown.

For the second morning running Michelle has listed her HIT LIST as: Tiff, Brig, Frank, Da, James, Nat, Paul, Paulie, Corey F3 with Zak/Nic

BUT my gut tells me as she learns more about the NiCor betrayal (and the showmances grow) she may start to adjust the list and end up with James/Nat moving higher up the ladder ahead of Corey/Nic/Paulie and possibly Day also moving forward. All it will take is one scare on the block at the hands of one of those 4 and she'll readjust IMO.

As for James I'm starting to see where he lies. Knowing Da was already a target he pulled Paulie back closer by confirming the showmance info. This to cement his position BUT IMO he is keeping options open:

He told Nat that Da won't win and won't be after them anyway because he knows Da won't target him/Nat until 5 or 6 others are gone.

He said to Paulie I have you and Corey's back (noticeably absent from that exchange was PAUL).

So, I believe James will allow Fridgette to target the showmances & vice versa while he will try to take out Frank, and I think he will work to forge a divide between Paulie/NiCor but he'll also try to pull in Brig to take out Corey.

IMO James is willing to sacrifice Da (at some point) but his intentions are to go deep with Nat, Da, Mich & possibly Paulie (although his ideal is for someone else to take out Paulie, so he remains committed to their deal).

Yes I know James is a very loyal player, but if/(I think more likely when) Frank/Brig end up in trouble (this week? soon?) it just stands to reason Nat/Brig will be the ones who Frank &/or Brig will come to with all of the details of deals Nicole & Corey have made. At that point James will learn of the Fatal 5, the Showmances plus Michelle & the deals Nicole was making left right and center. Sure it might lead to James growing tighter to the "guys" BUT Corey is equally at fault & I've yet to hear Corey say to Paulie he's comfortable going deep with James.

Personally I think James/Nat just need to observe, listen and duck for cover as the big guns go at each other If James/Nat are lucky they'll sail through to F5 with themselves and hopefully only 1 of the big targets remaining.

I think I've also figured out the extra reason behind Paulie-Paul relationship. ... Paul is offering to help set up Paulie in L.A. so he sees him as a networking avenue post BB.

Funny bits:
After Paulie let off a little steam about Corey and him needing to reel him back in and explain the deal with their guys alliance, James walked into the Tokyo room where Nicole, Corey, Nat, Bridgette and Tiff were and asked so who are we voting out tomorrow? Corey stammered and said you mean the vote... James said Yeah... & Corey said "well whatever the house wants" (also why I believe James is on to NiCor).

Michelle hid in the broken red locker and jumped out screaming scaring James (that has to be a first)

GAG of the day:
Frank said goodnight Norey

Nicole: I don't like that, I have something better, but I don't want to say it... (pause)

Nicole: Nicorey

Bottom line: Pretty sure we can expect to see (or not see at all depending on when they cut the feeds) some MAJOR DRAMA today as Frank makes a hail Mary to get his way and Nicole/Corey get exposed. All this time I thought Nicole's actions would come back to haunt her, but it's Corey who is going to put them in dangers way by saying to Frank "let's FORCE Paulie to pick a side!" Dumb move & one in which Nicole will have to pull him back off the wall from. Then next week expect Frank to be wanting his pound of flesh for 2 consecutive weeks of NiCor not doing what they said they would.

Fasten your seat belts kids, July 21st in the BB house could be a very bumpy ride!!!

**KeninVA** · 07-21-2016, 07:34 AM

Morning geo, TTOT, and all who follow,

Following a day and night of campaigning, Nic and Corey have not moved the needle with James, Michelle, Paul or Paulie. Tiff is walking out the door and then will have a 50/50 shot to get back in. Despite his talk about evicting the returnee immediately, if Tiff comes back and Brig or Frank are the HoH, that will not happen.

James has moved firmly into the showmance alliance, and the Big Brother Bros (Paulie, Paul, Corey, and now James), with James firmly on the side of Paulie and Corey which is not a good F3 for James, but could provide protection to the mid game.

Paulie demonstrates almost total ownership of the house, which makes him a potential target in a double eviction, and if he ends up on the block, he is likely to see himself getting a quick trip to the jury house.

Feeds will be down for awhile starting today, and as usual, we are going to the chance to see the most interesting events, when the returnee re-enters the house, and the immediate aftermath of the HOH.

**nonobadfish** · 07-21-2016, 07:36 AM

Good morning all. sdkgeo , I think you nailed it on the head: They are all on the "anybody but me" train. I searched for a way to describe them the other day because it feels like most aren't employing any long-term strategy....they only care to make it through this week and alliances shift every day (or week).

I haven't been able to watch much, but my overall take (from reading updates) is that Paulie/Corey/James/Paul might be the strongest alliance...they seem real? Are they BB18's version of The Brigade with Natalie or Nicole playing the role of Britney? Frank was talking badly about my Brit last night, so I dislike him even more than I did before. (He also talked badly about Danielle from his season.)

I do agree with geo and others that these HGs should be able to deduce that there is no one for Tiffany to nominate next week if Day left and Tiff stays. She's not going to nom her best friends Frank/Bridge, but Da will (on the offhand chance that she could win a comp). Frank/Bridge really have no one to nominate either if Day leaves...James wouldn't be on board for a Natalie boot, and the others wouldn't be on board (yet) for a Michelle or Zakiyah boot.

I'm still on the Paulie/James/Natalie F3 train. The other females have all disappointed me. My latest list from favorite to non-favorite:

Paulie (based on game play...he talks too much, but he's at least thinking BB strategy)
James
Natalie (she's in third place simply because the others have fallen below her)
Paul (tenuous position in my rankings...I think he's benefitting from me only reading, not watching him. This could change quickly.)
Zakiyah (she needs to start playing to move up in my rankings)
Michelle (she's growing on me...she could start moving up)
Da'Vonne
Tiffany
Corey (His behavior in the house lends credence to the pre-BB uproar over his bigoted tweets, and he truly doesn't have a clue what's going on).
Bridgette
Frank
Nicole (Nicole is in last place only because I'm so disappointed in her pre-teen behavior over a dang boy. SHE KNOWS HOW TO PLAY and she still is embarrassing herself. I actually like her better than I like Frank or Bridgette, but she's going to stay in last place until she wakes up and realizes, "He's not that into you and you're throwing away your chance for half a million dollars.")

My hope for Battle Back winner:
Glenn (because he deserves a chance to play). I would hope for Tiffany if she'd come back in and cause drama, but she looks like she's only going to pout so I'm not interested.

**OutOfTheDarkness** · 07-21-2016, 07:48 AM

It just dawned on me that the timing of the Battle Back might allow for the winner of the Battle Back to be in essence this week's Road Kill winner and be able to nominate a HG for eviction. That could be interesting if either Bronte or Victor win their way back in.

**KennyERJ** · 07-21-2016, 08:05 AM

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**TTOTambz** · 07-21-2016, 08:29 AM

I'm curious how much of a stink Frank is going to make today given his absolute refusal to listen at all last night. I'm also curious if he/Brig end up voting out Tiff and not even bother to give her sympathy votes AND if Tiff does return how she will view their decision.

Will that make Tiff realize THEY ALSO were just using her?

As for the Battle Back I am concerned Victor would align with boys &/or go after James/Nat which makes him my least ideal candidate to return. Like many I'm intrigued to see Glenn's game play in a season of so little of it (but find it highly unlikely he can win 4 rounds to return).

I like the idea of a Bronte return b/c she (although a newbie) could offer some interesting moves and could be the person who wins a DE comp to send one of Corey/Paulie out the door. (tee hee).

As much as I wanted to see Tiff play the game her choices this past week and inability to leave herself ANY wiggle room have me thinking her return would not offer anything we haven't seen already. I know Frank/Nic/Corey were working her votes but not to keep Tiff per se, rather for their own individual desires.

As much as I felt her speech was not well thought out (too aggressive as per my post earlier this week), and her choice to out every alliance she had in the house was short sighted leaving no forward path. For me what was most disappointing is she did exactly what all the girls said of her, she isolated herself going on constant tirades of woe is me. She could have tried to talk to Michelle and Zakiyah to understand why they were upset or swallowed her pride. Had she bothered to consider their position perhaps she could have built a bridge. Especially with Michelle who fought to keep her and cried over the thought of her leaving. Mich felt completely betrayed by her, but Tiff stubbornly refused to consider the position she put Mich in.

I'm not saying either lady is right. However, BB is a game that requires the ability to adapt and one of the keys to winning requires the player to consider anothers perspectives and points of view. Great players like Dan, Will, Derrick, Eric, Danielle Reyes, etc all brought a tool box full of skill sets to the table (heck even Vanessa whether you like her or not). Most of them recognized a kind gesture goes a long way, building bridges are important, but perhaps the most important strategic tool is being able to decipher what each players individual strengths, weaknesses and goals are. Once you know those you can formulate a plan to show the player you have common goals or point out why a relationship with you is more beneficial (to them) than others.

Instead Tiff chose to rely on bad mouthing Da or lamenting her position. SHE NEVER GAVE ANYONE A REASON TO KEEP HER.

Some might say well Da didn't act either, but the difference is Da made it clear who her target was and with so much fodder (truthful and not) in the air her best play was to lie low.

**JeanK** · 07-21-2016, 08:34 AM

Is it my imagination? No one mentioned Zakiya, lol. So did anyone else pick up on Zakiya doing Paulie's nails and making fun of Asian nail techs? Why is she immune to scrutiny? Is she even in the house anymore?

**Luanne** · 07-21-2016, 09:21 AM

Good morning all,

TTO thanks for doing live feed updates last night.

Lexie, you rock, thank you for the long days that you put in for us.

Tiffany is going home. I think I want Victor or Bronte to walk back into the house. I want Tiffany to go on home. She is not cut out for this game.

TTO, Michelle really hates Tiffany right now. I think the real reason is that Paul told her a lie. He told her Tiffany said something mean about her. I can not remember exactly what, I am very old.
I was watching that day and Tiffany did not say anything about Michelle.

I am trying to decide who I want to win HOH tonight or Friday. I do not think we will see a HOH competition tonight. Hopefully, we will know as soon as the feeds return who won.

It is really strange this year, I do not have a favorite to root for yet. I think I know who TTO is pulling for.

**lyriele2** · 07-21-2016, 10:11 AM

Agreed, Luanne, on hoping Victor or Bronte pulls out a Battle Back win.

At this point, James and Nat are the most likable people in the house in my book, and laying low is their best way to go. Let the others pick each other off.

**crissykins** · 07-21-2016, 10:42 AM

I am just not connecting with anyone in the house this season. I have barely watched live feeds. There is just no one to root for.

I really wanted to like Day, Z, and Paulie, they're just not doing it for me.

I liked Nicole when she was on before but she seems a lot whinier this time plus the thing with Corey.

Corey is like a Clay re-mold but dumber (didn't think that was possible)

Tiffany is a disaster. I got really fed up with listening to Vanessa by the end of last year and had some hopes that Tiff would be better - but she's worse, and not as smart about the game..

Bridgette seems like a nasty little troll trying to be cute.

Frank 2.0 is not as fun to root for as Frank 1.0

Paul is just downright annoying. That voice can be heard all over the house on any feed, even if he's not in the room. He's not "my boy" and i don't feel any "friendship" toward him at all.

Michelle - just something about her bugs me - she's so fake

James - same old James. I don't dislike him

Natalie - probably my favorite. She's not a mean girl, but she has no chance of winning this game

I dunno, i Just can't get into this year.

**BettyBoo** · 07-21-2016, 10:45 AM

What a week. I was a bit under the weather the beginning of the week, now our temps gonna hit 90s today. Last nite, Comcast crashed for couple hours - no WiFi, end of the world! And, oh yeah, the House went nuts since Tiff fever is apparently very contagious.

Frank is frustrated, while Paulie is annoyed. Corey and Nicole are doing themselves no favors. James, Nat and Michelle move up, while Zak, Da and Bridgette move down. Paul thrives like a weed, while Tiff drowns in pity poor whittle me tears.

Tiff leaves tonight and a little visitor arrives tomorrow. (And that's not the baby Zak and Nicole crave.) Can't wait for tonight and tomorrow to watch eyes roll and heads explode.

FYI noted last nite that Paulie started wearing a tee shirt after hearing Zak wants his baby. Hopefully he keeps everything wrapped!! (And that Nat and Michelle didn't waste all the condoms in pranks.) Also that Paul was NOT amused- so much for his sense of humor-hmmm.

**KeninVA** · 07-21-2016, 10:48 AM

TTOTambz, I think Corey really wants to align with Frank and Bridgette, over the BB Bros, because, I believe, he would not mind being the F2 with Nic. That makes Frank's argument powerful for him, since I think, even if we have not seen him verbalize it to anyone but Nic, that he would in fact take her over a guy. So, from his perspective, getting Da out actually makes sense for him as well as Frank. Recall, last week, Nic and Corey approached Frank, after the save Tiff movement was underway, and Nic started targeting Da. The "lets align with Frank" convo's were never shared with Paulie, and so Paulie thinks Corey is weak minded, which is one reason he wants him around, but he may not realize Corey is actively scheming to align with Frarnk, over Paulie. Is Paulie astute enough to realize that, I don't know.

My opinion is that none of these players have the emotional intelligence, nor outward looking house view, to really pick up on all those cues, except for, potentially, Da, and she comes with other baggage, and has been severely damaged in the game. If Frank believes what he is telling everyone, then his goal should be to either get Da out next week, as the last pre jury boot, or keep her until F3, so that she can't poison or sway the jury, and is only a vote. I suspect neither of those things will happen, because Frank the Tank is just that, a blunt instrument of house destruction. All of them have similar issues.

**belle1** · 07-21-2016, 10:59 AM

I kept quite yesterday because I just had no words for the antics in the house. Today I still don't. Will continue to keep my eye on things that jeopardize James' safety and yell to him to watch out.

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