Live Feed Discussion - July 24

[Lexie]

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[Lexie]

Good Morning and Good Night!

[KeninVA]

Morning Lexie and all who follow,

With Michelle winning POV (OTEV) Frank is being processed for the trip to julies couch. Michelle is still pushing a Bridgette boot, and has gone as far as suggesting a 5-4 vote to oust Frank. This is a transparent ploy to set up a shifted vote to get Bridgette out, and is not going to happen.

Bridgette is going to target James and Da if she survives the week and wins HoH. That plan might fail, if Da and Bridgette clear the air and some observations start getting shared.

Nat has an excellent read on the house, particularly Nic/Corey and Paulie. But, James is in with them, and deflects her suspicions.

Da is thinking about the power in the house, and realizes the upstairs phone booth is more than it seems. Frank is talking about a DPOV. None of them are focused on the posters, or the little airplane with the direct hint "call paris".

Without a real confidant, we don't know what Victor is really thinking, but he appears to be all in with the Bros. He has potential to break the house open, if he has power, and were to turn on Corey and Paulie. If he does not get power, he will be at the bottom of the Bros and will be booted at the after Da is out.

Paulie is still in control, and has built layers of protection around himself, that makes him hard to get out for the next two weeks, but, if the other players wanted to open the game, getting Paulie out would fracture the house, and allow for some of the stronger players, who are circling Paulie now, to reconfigure giving themselves better odds. Paulie has made each other player in the game think that he is really with them. I continue to be amazed that he has not been found out yet.

Frank is working Michelle to flip the house, but I don't think he is going to be successful.

[BettyBoo]

I'm picturing him on Allison's couch with her berating him about how she gave him everything to win and he still blew it. He was protected by the teams from the beginning, but his personality did him in again.

[belle1]

Victor seems to be laying low, biding his time and gathering information. He is keeping the kitchen clean and not yelling at others about how dirty it is, showing a reasoned side by calming Paul down, and being sociable. The only complaint I have heard is about the food. So I am curious about his plans but don't expect him to share with anyone even Paul.

[breakingwave]

Again I find myself on a different side. Frank is a favorite of mine , I see him from all sides and yes his mouth gets him in trouble,he speaks before he thinks but I have known a few guys like this and still have been able to tolerate them. I think Frank has a good heart. He was going about his business making alliances and then Da week 2 began to dismantle them with lies about how he was going after everyone Which was kind of impossible to go after everyone . I watched very closely with much frustration at how not only she got away with it no one ever ask or confronted him to see if it were true which is why he continues to trust something he did not have anything to do with. Every time people would come to him to pursue his game plans they would go to the people on the list and tell them his plans without one actual follow through with him. In my opinion he was set up time and time again because they saw him as a huge roadblock but if Da,Nicole and James would have respected the Vet alliance that Da broke as soon as she entered the house going to Josea to make a deal right off the bat things might have turned out different.My least favorite is Da because of this and I hope when she is kicked to the curb by Paulie and his group that she realizes where she went wrong.

[Luanne]

Good morning everyone. I get up this morning and the house is still going strong. I tried to put times and a little bit of information in the LFU. I do not know how the live feed posters do it. Props to them. I am sure someone will go back and get it all and post .

Paul is such a hot head. He is still going strong in HOH but I an not take any more of him. I think Zak has thrown her game away by the way she has acted with Paulie. I think Paulie wants to work with Bridgette. I think we will see the guys giving her some attention. Frank has talked about her loyalty and that is what they want in the one girl they want to take to the end.

Bridgette bakes when she is upset. That is why she bakes all the time. She thinks Zak was real sweet when they were having their talk.

I can see that Paul is still going on and on and on and on in the HOH room but I just can not listen to him. Frank tells Bridgette that another thing the others are talking about her and that her boyfriend is a former house guest because she will not say his name.

Frank will leave Thursday. The other guys are strong. Unless one of the other girls win HOH, Bridgette may be around for a while.

[sdkgeo]

If they could get out Paul I think I would be okay with a 4 way bromance at this point. I just can't with these girls with the exception of maybe Natalie. I can't take Paul. I hate that bombastic, narcissistic personality type. He thinks everything is about him and he inserts himself into situations that have nothing to do with him. He is really irrelevant to anything that is actually going on, but he's like that little chihuahua always yapping and biting at peoples heels. Please get him out of the house.

Frank could just never recover from the damage he did throwing so many names around and telling people different things. He should have tried to work back into the group and talk to Day instead of isolating himself with Tiffany last week. Oh well. A veteran goes down at the hands of another veteran. The newbies are going to get their wish of getting all the vets out. They should have stuck together.

[joahnn00]

He's a ****roach. A flea, an annoying gnat. Ugh I have to turn the feeds when he is on.

[breakingwave]

James is once again making his most likely rare game over in taking out a key player and the he goes in hiding ,it's his thing.

[breakingwave]

Paul has been a yuck right from the beginning his loud lies have taken over a lot of rational game play I keep waiting for someone to catch on to him,James seem to know he lying but doesn't say anything.

[OutOfTheDarkness]

So it comes out Bridgette is/was dating Dr Will Kirby. When will the house discover this; she needs to be the next boot after Frank!

Think several of them have connections to former HGs. Believe that is where the secrets this year tie in. Wouldn't be surprised if Natalie has ties to Janelle. Just saying.

[BettyBoo]

Funny, how she told Frank her boyfriend was a yoga instructor. I swear we need a HOOIE meter in there.

[BettyBoo]

I find it curious that Paulie and Nat knew each other before though I haven't seen or heard of them calluding on the feeds.

(Tee hee of course neither of them will callude with their show partners on camera either)

[misscmm]

Wasn't it also Cory and Nat dating friends?

[Luanne]

This morning, Frank told Bridgette he heard another rumor about her. He told her that they (I do not know who) told him that her boyfriend was a former house guest. She laughed at how crazy that was. I do not think she has anything to do with Dr. Will.....

[Millitarymom]

Frank talking about the drugs he was prescribed and they won't let him take.........fish

[BettyBoo]

Paulie tossed down a bunch of pills yesterday. Not sure what all these supposedly healthy young adults have that require so much medication? I am concerned about Paulies constant cough-allergies or possibly dry mouth from his meds. Just find it curious.

[KeninVA]

BettyBoo. It was Advil from having a sore shoulder

[breakingwave]

It always surprises me how many of these young house guests are on medicines.

[belle1]

I think it is cruel for Paulie and Paul to continue to talk to Frank and Bridgette about flipping the house.

[Lynette]

If Paul is one of the last ones in there, the ants won't be the only ones leaving the house. A LOT of live feed watchers will be gone too!

[belle1]

You said it in spades

[breakingwave]

Cruel behaviors seem to be part of this year which to me makes it a very bad one.

[Lynette]

For those that don't have the Live Feeds.......the last 1 hr 3 min of BBAD last night on POP is live right after OTEV competition.

[cutencuddly]

I understand people saying that Frank and Bridgette are understandably bitter -- sure it's natural for them to be venting at various housemates -- but fact is they have spent a lot more time trashing than they have building relationships. They have isolated themselves.

Oh yes, Frank did try to build relationships at the beginning -- a lot of them -- and that was the source of his downfall. He was branching out everywhere, showing no alliance spirit. Conspicuously trying to scoop up the other side so he would be protected on all sides, but doing it in a way which was rapidly accelerating the decline of the big alliance. You're in an alliance of 8 and you go against the other 7? While they're still a strong 7? In a house of just 15?

So, he dug his own hole, and he needed to climb out of it, but he hasn't been doing what was needed to climb out. He just couldn't stop with the wheeling and dealing. Never taking the time to build a real, trustworthy relationship except with Bridgette -- and he built that relationship in a way which cut off the people that she could have brought along to help make that relationship more useful.

He had so much raw material -- so many natural gifts. But something was missing in the execution. Some missing ingredient which would let him make the relationships real -- maybe the same lack of perception and good sense which let him get to be 32 and think it was okay to treat women like meat on national TV.


So, I hope he's going. But TPTB will probably save him. So we'll probably get to see him playing the serpent in Eden for more episodes.


But if TPTB don't save him, they have Paulie to build up as a villain. He's widely disliked among livefeeders now ... and now he's talking about putting Z on the block ... Z and Da' together? ... so he's going to get all sorts of villain points out of that.

[joahnn00]

Border57, that's pretty much how I saw it too. However I would rather watch Enzo any day over Paul.

[ManaDee]

I agree with this. Frank played too hard too fast. Instead of trying to lay low, he was making deals with just about everyone in the house week 2. He was throwing around F2, F4, F5 with various groups. Those people comparing notes is what turned everyone against him. And he didn't have enough awareness of the house to know that everyone was on to him, and just placating him when they spoke to him. He still don't think he realizes that it happened that way.

Brig also made her own bed. She didn't attempt to really make relationships outside of Bronte and Nat, and then just clung to Frank as soon as he showed her some attention (Frank, who -along with Nicole- she said she didn't trust from the beginning) and isolated herself with him, she didn't even foster her remaining relationship with Natalie after Bronte left. She allowed him to have talks for her when HOH and after. She's done well at a few competitions, but other than that she does nothing other than complain with Frank, it seems to me. You don't have to really get along with people to speak with them, especially game talk, but it seems like she never even tried.

[cutencuddly]

Well said.

[cutencuddly]

I _am_ disappointed in James. Still love him the best. But this is two seasons in a row where he made someone a promise of safety while on the wall, and then put them up after they accepted the promise and dropped.

So no promises made to James count. He needed to redeem and instead he doubled down. Not a good place for him and Nat to be.

[psucolleen]

Bridgette is a downright nasty person. Not sure who she thinks she's fooling with her fake cotton-candy persona she tries to turn on especially during the Thursday live episodes. I'll be happy when she walks out the door. Hopefully a week from Thursday. But, they'll let her skate on by for a few more weeks, I'm sure.

I guess today's goal will be for production to spell out for Frank how to find the secret room and gain power. Not sure what it is they love so much about him; I find him very unlikable. I had hope in the first week or so but he dropped right back down when he started playing king of the house.

[Luanne]

I do not think production will do anything to save Frank. He has not been getting a good edit. I really believe the secret room and power was set before the game started. I think they will have to drop hints and lots of hints to this year's crew.

[OhThisHouse]

Brid reminds me of the girl that does the insurance commercial. I loved Brad for 4 years, then I totaled Brad. Then insurance called me and replacing Brad, and I did the happy dance. She sure looks like that girl, and even sounds like her.

[Luanne]

Another week when I do not care that a specific player is leaving the game. I enjoy it more when I have a player to root for. I keep looking and maybe after the numbers drop, I will find that special player. In the past, sometimes I am so excited for the next HOH. Nervous for my player, happy for my player, but not this year.

[KeninVA]

I feel the same way. My profile says I should be cheering Paulie on, because he is my type of player. But I have zero emotional investment in him.

[breakingwave]

This year is almost as bad for me as Season 15 which I hated, it's going to be very hard to finish the season .I would like no one to get the money and have it donated to charity but I don't think they will listen to me. Of course like most I will continue to watch the train wreck to make sure a miracle doesn't happen with a whole new cast but it's going to be painful.

[Millitarymom]

Tried to watch the live feeds this morning but the topics of conversation and language was so vulgar I had to turn them off. Is this group especially nasty or am I just getting too old for this??????

[Millitarymom]

I have three sons in their 30's......and I better not ever hear them talk like that

[breakingwave]

They are awful.

[joahnn00]

No, they are disgusting, my son is 32 and I have never heard him talk like that, or any of his friends. I have to turn them off its just awful.