Live Feed Discussion-July 27

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[sdkgeo]

Morning all. I'm still catching up this morning. I don't think the vote has flipped. The target has been securely pinned on Day for next week. You know she played right in to the newbies hands by planting seeds against Tiffany and Frank. That started the ball rolling and then that ball rolled right over her and in trying to save herself she has pulled Nicole under that ball too.

[LCnSummer]

Perfect description. She is going to need to win an HOH at the right time to save herself.

[sdkgeo]

Paul, Paulie, and Vic are such ****heads to make Bridgette think that Frank is being a ****head to her. He should be trying to get votes to stay. Why does it have to be something against her for him to try to stay. What kind of person tries to hurt people like that on purpose.

[Ellee1]

I agree that this game is hard but these people are taking it to another level. Lying to each other is one thing but purposely being cruel when there is no need is another. I don't have feeds so my opinion is based on what I've read.

I too hope Bridgette and Frank get to have a good talk.

[breakingwave]

I was repulsed when I heard this ,these individuals are so nasty character that they continually stoop lower. Frank addressed this last night with Paulie and Z he said he would not campaign but he was taking the temperature,Brigette also asked Paul how he was going to vote and she basically said the same thing so to me it makes no sense for Bridgette not to talk with Frank about this. The question was said because Paul had told people Frank said Brigette wanted to go home and Frank rejected that saying no one wants to go home. This is what made me turn live feeds off because these people including James as he was being mean last night to be cool with the boys are just toxic.

[LCnSummer]

A guy who sells stuff that says don't give a f...

[DeeAnneG]

I must say this week I want the target to win HOH. Then I want the target to totally ignore anything Paulie says and make nominations that she wants to make.

[Luanne]

But Paulie and Paul are making sure they will not be her targets.

[DeeAnneG]

That's a bummer...but I can still hope for an original nomination.

[beckyd30]

Go Mama Da

[KeninVA]

Morning geo, DAG, and all who follow,

As is usual for this house, nothing seems to start until 2 A.M East coast time. Frank is working to stay in the house. Paulie has Frank totally snowed as to his complicity in getting Frank/Bridgette nominated, and is working a plan to pull Bridgette in and target Da against Nicole next week. Watching Paulie talk to Da, and then to Frank, he is totally believable in the moment. Watching those two scenes, you would never know where his head is really at. I predict they will make a show of flipping the votes today, and then tell Frank they could not get it done on Thur. Paulie is also good at sending Paulie to work on Bridgette, keeping his hands clean, and giving him plausible deniability if things go south. Paul is working to get Bridgette to throw Nicole and Corey under the bus. The flaw in Paulie's plan, is that anything Paul brings back will be useful to Paul, who will use it plant seeds of doubt against Corey, looking to move up the stack in the BBBros group.

More campaigning today, but Da is being buried, and does not even know it. Her boot order is also out of touch with reality, in that she knows the showmances exist, Paulie is running them, and she has her boot order of Frank, Bridgette, Nicole, Nat. She is voting out the people she would need to flip the house. She has a total misread of Z, Corey, Michelle, and Paul, thinking she can pull them to her.

Right now, there is a 20 percent chance the house flips, but no more than that. Da is number one with a bullet for Paulie, with Nicole a close second, and Bridgette third.

[breakingwave]

Kudos, good read on the house at the moment, that is just what I saw going on too with some mean behavior thrown in.

[Luanne]

I love how Paulie retells a conversation. He is always the one that stood his ground. He adds so much to the conversation that was not said. He said Frank was shaking. Did I tell you all, I do not like Paul and want him gone. However, I am very afraid that he will be around till the end.

[KeninVA]

Me too. I think he will be Paulie's demise.

[KeninVA]

I am always amazed these people never look at motive or incentive. Da, to win, needs either Z or Nicole at the end. There are 12 people left. It is way to early for Da to be getting Nicole booted, and then having to rely on Z to pick her over her wished for Baby Daddy. And, if Paulie was worried about Nicole, getting Frank out would nip that in the bud. He should also question why Paul's recounting of a conversation, is never corroborated by the other person. Especially Frank. And Bridgette does not have the game sense of an ant, if she buys into the people who have been shunning her suddenly being her friend, and telling her things about Frank, without checking with Frank.

Except for the fact that I can't stand Paul, my new hope is that he is the one to stab Paulie out. I said last night, the shunning and manipulation of the targets has been terrible this year, and I fear it is becoming the modus operandi for the house. It will be Nicole and Da's turn next week, if any of the guys get HoH. And then at the end the game will be "Sausage Fest" to TV show competing with "Sausage Party" the movie. (A real thing by the way. Unbelievable what Hollywood will greenlight.).

[Delvoire]

What!? Sausage Party looks great, IMO Not looking forward to Sausage Fest on TV though......

I swear, if I hear "your boy" one more time....

[Luanne]

Ken, Da and Nicole's game is over. What I do not understand is why Frank does not see what Paulie is up to. He fully believes Paulie is on his side. Bridgette just told him Paulie was in the room, hugged her and told her she did not have to go out there. Wake up Frank, Paulie has been your enemy for weeks. It does not make a difference since Frank is gone, but I want him to see Paulie as the two face snake he is.

It will not make a difference in the game, but I hope Bridgette really thinks about what the others are doing. Frank is the only one that has given her any attention. He really cares for her.

[beckyd30]

Would be nice if they let him see the goodbye message from Paulie saying something like 'Frank, I'd like to hang with you outside the house, but inside you had to go. You were too dangerous for my game and that is why I had to get James to put you up despite his promise. Laters.' Then Julie opens his envelope and he gets his round trip ticket to go back in and knows the truth, but since they know about that twist before eviction, Paulie would never say anything so dumb unless TPTB lie (gasp - never) and tell them the 'goodbye messages' will be played after the envelopes are opened and only if the evicted HG has a 1 way ticket.

[nonobadfish]

Morning, everyone. I turned on the feeds to listen while getting ready this morning. I'm not as sure as y'all are that Da or Nicole are in real trouble because this group changes on a dime. That's my number one complaint in finding a favorite: They change their minds and their targets from hour to hour without a long term strategy which means I can't stick with one HG who at least is playing the game well.

I think Da is safe if Paul, Bridgette, or Z wins HoH. I think Nicole is safe if Corey wins HoH. To me it's a toss-up what happens to either of them if Paulie, Michelle, or Natalie wins HoH. I think Paulie legitimately is worried about being played by Nicole, but it remains to be seen if his trust in Corey has been shaken any. I do get the feeling he wants to take Paul to the end instead of Corey now, although that could change if he can get Nicole out of the way.

Paulie said he'd put Nicole up vs. Day. Then he says he'd put Bridgette up against a pawn (Natalie or the Executive). I don't think we know whom any of them will actually put up because we don't know which wind is going to be blowing on their flip-floppy minds on nomination day. (We also don't yet know what the twist is that lets America be involved.)

I only know one thing: I'm absolutely 150% delighted (over a 100% in homage to our greatly missed Hip) that Nicole has been outed. I don't even mind if she stays in the house now.

Edited to correct that what Paulie actually said is that he'd put Natalie or Executive up against Bridgette. I'm not sure who Executive is....I thought at first it was Victor but twitter says it's James? This is what I get for being behind this year.

[belle1]

Just watched that talk among Da, Z, Paulie and Paul. They were making fun of Victor calling him the executive. They were laughing having fun then started attaching CEO nicknames to others. James nickname was CEO Rambo. So maybe that is the confusion on Twitter.

[~2much~]

I think when Da help him connect some of the dots… They were landing with him...I didn't understand that conversation that Da and James had when she was given a hypothetical what would you do if Nicole and Natalie were on the block and he paused ....and said ...I don't know... That gave Da pause and she said" umm...do you have something with Nicole" and James denied it but I was wondering why he wouldn't even hesitate to say I would vote Nicole off. Da definitely noticed. Stay sharp girl!!

[LCnSummer]

(((Nono))).

I miss Hip also. When I swear at the houseguests, I do it in HipSwear with all the crazy punctuations she was so gifted at using.

Hip...... we miss you.

[belle1]

I have been thinking about the guy group for a few days and still my thoughts are not fully formed. My primary thought is Paulie has fractured the guy group. His actions have given Paul the opportunity to take control. This was done by giving Paul information and using him as a surrogate. Paulie over estimates his ability to strategize and under estimates Paul's abilities. Watching Paul's conversation with Bridgette this morning showed me how powerfully he manipulates. I have said several times how dangerous Paul is. Paulie has also created doubts in James by dismissing most information James brings to him. Additionally, James also got visibly upset the other night when he realized Paulie was playing hero to Frank by telling him he was being voted out. He stayed calm but later became angry about Bridgette telling him to f**k off. James knew she said that and even told Nat about it. So I think he used that as a way to justify his anger. The one thing we know about James is that he does not show his negative feelings. Corey it seems is just along for the ride, his attitude seems to be what ever as long you keep me safe. Perhaps he would be the only guy that sticks by Paulie but if up against the wall I am not sure. And Victor, who knows.

Paul's affinity list is only Paul. Corey's list is who ever. James is fully committed to Nat.

As I said my thoughts are not fully formed but I do think Paulie is out the door during the DE if not able to stay safe with competitions.

[Ellee1]

Since Paul has maintained residence up Paulie's butt....would Paul be going with Paulie in Paulie's eviction? Please say 'yes'. Please.

[belle1]

Fingers crossed.

[breakingwave]

I disagree I also think James is only for James he has no worries about Nat going up he has said , that she made her goal which was jury but These big bad men want to take a floater girl like our old friend Victoria to the end and so Nat can be used later.

[cutencuddly]

Catching up with the forum today, I realize that I dreamed about BB ... dreamed about it so powerfully that a few minutes ago I had to say "wait, what? that was just a dream? of course it was," when I realized that it's still this week, and Frank and Bridgette are both still here.

I dreamt that someone -- was it Natalie? -- had put up Nicole and Corey together and I was going, "Yes! You came through for me! I wasn't sure you had it in you."

I guess those will have to be my fantasy game guesses ... just in case.

[JeanK]

Double standard time. Bridget told Frank he couldn't call her skinny because it's wrong to discuss someone's appearance. Yet after that she called him skinny, punched him repeatedly and left marks and threw water on him. Why is this okay?

[breakingwave]

Frank and she had a long discussion saying a number of times he did not see her as fat or skinny he even said I will call you moderate, so Paul is just spreading lies there. I agree with her beating up on him all day. He also told her 6 movies because she asked all day she does remind me of Victoria.

[ManaDee]

I think Brigette is insecure and a little immature, TBO.

[~smee~]

OK, is it just me, or is anyone else having trouble keeping all the Paulie told Paul who told Paulie that Paul said for Paulie to tell Paul that PauliePaulPauliePaulPaulPauliePaul...? Reminds me of the Rodney Carrington song, "Fred's Riding Fred". I keep bursting into song: Paul's a-ridin' Paul, Paul's ridin' Paul, Paul's ridin' Paul, Paul's ridin' Paul...

[~smee~]

you n' me, Guest ! ''...and his name was --- he didn't know what his name was -- so he just called him..'' Paul - Paul's a-ridin'... Yup, I think you have it, Nono.

[Freebyrd]

I don't know that song either, but here I am singing it anyway - Oh, smee...you should be on BB. Just sayin'.

[~smee~]

Nah, Guest , you'd get really tired of hearing them saying, ''Smee, stop singing!''

[Pammer]

In catching up on LF discussions today, I noticed some comments that were sticking up for Frank (not campaigning against Brig). I could have sworn that he was in the bathroom with Paulie and somebody else when he said that Brig is done and she is ready to go home. And later Paulie tells somebody else that he ( Frank) told us that because he wants Paulie and the bros to spread it (do the work) to get Franks votes to stay? Maybe I was dreaming. Frank is not the sweet and innocent guy or a victim in my book, but NONE of the houseguests can wear that label this summer! Not even Natalie....

[sdkgeo]

Actually, Bridgette did say that at one point, after the noms. She was talking about being able to get a new contract and go back to work instead of sitting in sequester when she goes out later.

[Luanne]

Palmer, I missed that conversation. I did watch several conversations where Frank told Bridgette he was going home, and he was sorry that she was in trouble because of him. Before POV, he told her, she had to fight for herself. He did not want her thinking about not winning and taking herself off. This is another week where I have no problem with either one going home.

[breakingwave]

They have had many conversations about their fate saying all sides of it . Bridgette has said many times even before today she hates all the house guests and wants to go home so has Frank many times so it's really not one way or the other. The point is Frank did clear that up last night with Z and Paulie. I do not believe Frank would purposely go out of his way to hurt Bridgette.

[nonobadfish]

Update while the HGs sleep: There has been more affirmation of a fall BB19 supposedly set to air ONLY on CBS All Access. All the more reason to go ahead and get CBS All Access now and watch the Live Feeds this summer (by clicking through on BBU, of course). Then you'll be ready to watch the online show when it starts. Rumor is that Robyn Kass is NOT casting it since she's currently casting BBCanada. And I would assume it will be all newbies because veterans wouldn't want to come back for a show that's online only.

I'm headed to a conference tomorrow, but am hoping that I can get online and pay attention to the feeds while pretending to listen to the speakers. At this moment, I better go back to work.