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**sdkgeo** · 08-03-2016, 06:35 AM

Morning all.

Well, looks like Day has a pretty good idea that she is going home finally due to a sketchy conversation with Paulie and a conversation with James. It finally dawned on somebody that Paulie is playing Derrick's game, but with these people they probably have no clue what that means. Paulie and Z had an argument that made him look like a real jerk, but I think they made up.

Today should be interesting. Will Day try to game at all or is she just going to roll over? They could have votes, but I do not see a way for them to get that 5th vote. Everybody is bro'd up with Paulie or in the case of Nicole attached to someone who is. I just can't with Nicole.

**OutOfTheDarkness** · 08-03-2016, 06:59 AM

What I don't understand is neither Paulie or Paul are putting the round trip ticket potential into the equation with this boot. IF Da does have the ticket, all this boot planning can blow up in their faces. They BOTH have way over played their cards. The house is seeing them for the heads of the snake that need to be taken out the minute the opportunity arises.

The other thing they are surely not considering is TPTB need to do SOMETHING to spice up this season to maintain viewers now that the show will be competing against the Olympics for said viewers starting Friday.

I expect the DR to start ramping up the others (Nat/Z/Mich/James/Bridge) to go against the current game flow of team PP. I also expect today the DR getting these five to start thinking about the round trip ticket and implying how Da might have the RT ticket. Add the assuring of Da back into the house. And there might be something to make viewers tune in.

**Pammer** · 08-03-2016, 07:10 AM

Well, I'm all caught up on my BBU, and now I'm about to watch the 4 hours of BBAD that I DVR'd from last night. Please don't let it be popping pimples again!

Also, just a random thought, does anyone else feel like Nicole was mentally scarred from her first season....I feel like she transformed her game this year so she can be the Christine/Rat. Wake up Nicole! She walked into the jury house right behind you!

**sofieckcs** · 08-03-2016, 07:17 AM

Does anyone else think Paul's mouth isn't as bad as it used to be? Or, heaven forbid, I'm getting used to it. My thought is TPTB told him to clean it up because they couldn't edit him into a coherent sentence for the TV show. Still don't like him though.

**TTOTambz** · 08-03-2016, 08:15 AM

Good Morning Geo and All who follow,

Feeling Angst over Paulie's behavior:
I've written and erased this entry at least 4 times because last night's Paulie/Zakiyah conversation really bothered me. It brought back memories for me of an ex BF who used to get drunk and border on violence. As I watched it I found myself getting extremely upset, the condescending tone, the interrogation of every word she used, the vacillation between mocking her, glaring at her in anger and when she was in tears he only amped up his attack. He used his words carefully, but the undertones of liar, disloyal, phony and betrayal were all there.

Afterward he took great glee in sharing and laughing about the episode with his cronies.

Arrogance leads to Derrick Comparison/avoidable mistakes:

Ironically Paulie could be called out for everything he accused her of ten-fold and IMO (I'm still really pissed about what happened so it's possibly skewing my opinion... BUT) it may have been the first major mistake he made in this game.

Zakiyah knows a lot of details about both Paulie as well as Nicole who played the role of concerned friend. To that end Nic would run back to P with embellished details laughing behind Z's back. Again IMO Nicole is worse than Christine from BB16 in the absolute joy she is taking in these events. I will happily watch her demise and when she cries at the point she gets sent packing for all the boys I hope not one person is there to console her. I just can't express how little respect I have for her this season.

But I digress... this incident and Paulie's burgeoning ego has left him making overt gestures and this unbridled arrogance continues to grow. In spite of his altercation with Zakiyah he still continues to speak badly about Victor right in front of her and release game details . Other than Andy from BB15 I can't recall wanting someone to be called out as much as I do Paulie. It's unusual for a season of BB to run as smoothly as Derrick's did in BB16, yet he at least took precautions. Paulie's devil may care attitude stems from all the seeds he's planted and his belief there is always at least one target in front of him with any individual.

Ignoring Meech/Zak/Da this week has helped the girls to confirm Paulie is running the house and very likely an all male alliance with Ratcole in tow.

P&P so arrogant they've forgot golden rule of how BB works:...
The bigger they are the harder they fall.. and they are DUE to FALL

What makes this interesting is how sloppy his play has been given the upcoming care packages which they have no idea of what power each yields, not to mention the probability TPTB will return Da to the house. Ever the conspiracy girl I wondered when they were locked out the hamsters to fix the upstairs shower a day ago if that would offer the perfect time to switch everyone's envelopes so that Da's has the return ticket figuring her oust was inevitable.

Paulie's oblivious to how quickly (and easily) the house could turn on him. The haphazard manner in which he's playing is mind boggling. He tells both Victor and James he outed them for telling Zak about what Meech said. For James this betrayal can be added alongside his demand for Bridgette to go on the block last week and feigning ignorance. James seems well aware of what's up, but he feels hamstringed at the moment but I can see him shifting.

Last night it was humorous when Paul said, yeah but Bridgette has won comps and needs to go b/c it's not you she'll come after it's me. I just took it for the team, so you guys need to be there next week and return the Happiness. This serves to point out if Paulie again tries to take over another HOH and when Brig is available and leaves Paul out to dry like he did James he could find himself losing loyalty within his own alliance!

And, if Da walks out the door Thursday expect her to say goodbye Derrick, oh I mean Paulie on her way out the door. She already told Meech he spoke to her like Derrick when she tried to get a direct answer from him (see convo below)

As much as P&P continue to be leading the charge Paulie made a choice IMO that woke up the females. His action could have easily been tempered, but he's so caught up in his ego he thinks he's untouchable. He could be right, but it seemed like a series of stupid things given all the intangibles.

Da knows she's the target:
As for Da she knows she is the likely target following her last conversation with Paulie. He kept trying to be vague so Da was specific:

Da: is everything good for Thurs?

P: as far as I know

Da (gets specific) as far as voting Bridgette out.

P: I think so unless something else is going on. Natalie said is voting to keep Bridgette, she said she was going to do that.(nice Paulie even in a situation when you are lying to the girl's face you can't resist throwing Nat UTB)

Da: I’m just making sure the plan didn’t change. You’re definitely voting Bridgette out right?

P: I’ll vote Bridgette out. If that’s what Paul wants. (so here he uses wording that can be explained as I didn't lie, eventually I will vote Brig out and then places it all at Paul's feet)

Da: is that what you want?! Don’t talk in circles. Do you want me to stay in the house?

P: yeah.

Da I just wanted to come talk to you and see if everything was okay. All this friendship didn’t start with Bridgette until I got put on the block.

After she leaves Paulie says I think Da will respect good game play, which is telling Zak that Da is gone w/o saying it directly. Him choosing to make Da suffer her last week in the house is also cruel b/c at least he told Frank. You would think he would understand Da's influence on the jury! Then again he's so arrogant he probably thinks he'll have her vote anyway.

On top of this convo Da's well aware of all the closed door sessions and whispering and Brig not being worried at all. She has told James (after seeing him 3 times behind closed doors with NiCorey) that she will be extremely hurt if he doesn't vote for her and has repeatedly asked him to tell her if she's in trouble. That and the fact when she entered a convo with Paul, James, NiCorey today and asked what they were discussing to a hushed room they said who to put for DE. When she asked who they thought James inadvertently responded Bridg & Vic, to which Da said why Bridg she wont' be here!

James in precarious position:
For James he needs to find a way today to tell Da you don't have the votes b/c even in a tie Paul won't keep you. It's a precarious position for James who senses he could easily fall from Paulie's upper echelon if he hasn't already and yet he knows Paulie/Paul/NiCorey need to be split up.

Despite Zak/Meech/Da/Nat/James being clued in to Paulie running the house Meech's target is Paul and Nat's is Nic. Da would target Paulie and James might in a DE though I suspect he'd go after Nicole/Brig in a regular eviction.

Care Packages Strategy A = Da, B= Meech?
From a game perspective I've been voting for Da every day with my 20 care package votes and if she has the return ticket will continue to. In the event she leaves I'm likely giving that award to either Zak or Meech (who I"m leaning towards more so). I'll make my final decision following Thursday's eviction. I hope this strategy works with Da ideally returning & winning HOH, but I'll happily watch Nicole/Paulie freak out next week if Meech/Zak get the care package as it should send a definitive message to them.

Notably Paulie hasn't thought through how much Z and Meech know (a lot!). Further if James was to side with the girls and one of them or Nat/James win HOH (or Da who returns to win it) it would be easy to get Victor and Bridgette to out everything they know (again, which is a lot) about Paulie's plans.

Da smartly told Meech if you win HOH make sure you talk to each person individually and get information from them prior to making your nominations. Anyone running a 'typical' HOH like that (which has yet to occur this season) should be enough to send P&P into full on panic mode.

After the way they've treated Meech/Zak this week a sudden change to act like everything is okay would only confirm how fishy they've been acting!

So, since I've written/re-written this numerous times I'm sure most of what I said has already been covered. Anyway I'll close with last night's Zak/Paulie interaction truly disturbed me leaving me wanting him out of the house. Prior to that convo I thought he was an arrogant ass. Now I don't want him on my TV. Ditto for Nicole but for different reasons (I can't stomach a female who so clearly has zero girl code, and for someone who whines so much about trivial things the fact she was laughing at Zak's heartbreak was telling).

**KeninVA** · 08-03-2016, 08:34 AM

Morning all,

My take, Paulie continues to play a sloppy game, but he has been playing.

Nicole is a lost cause, who basically told Corey last night that she is happy to play Christine's role of the last girl standing. She wants the final 4 of Corey, her, Paul and Paulie, and in that Convo, Corey brings in James (which should be a hint to her, but is not).

The key relationship to watch, IMO, is Bridgette/Nat now that James has explicitly read her in on the all boys alliance. Nat sees the writing on the wall, that all the girls are set against each other, and will take each other out, for the guys. If Nat or Bridgette can gain a little power, they might be able to rally the Z/Meech to fight back. But that will inevitably lead to the leader being the next priority boot. It might be possible for James to turn Victor, but his animosity towards Nat, and affinity for the PP team, might just lead to an early boot for James. In many ways, the house is an inverse view of S15, where Amanda Z had established a game affinity with one half of the many house duo's, (i.e. Aaryn/Gm, McCrae/Spencer, etc). It made it hard to strike at her until the mid game, when she chose wrongly and kept Andy over Aaryn. The pairs in the house have established an animosity on one side of the pair with all the single players who could be gathered up. Bridgette is against James (legitimately), Victor against Nat, Z against Nicole, Michelle against Bridgette. This works to isolate Paulie and to a lesser extant Paul, from a credible threat being able to coalesce. The opposition cannot gain critical mass, since they are as afraid of other factions in the opposition as they are of the main threat. (Just like in Syria, but I digress).

All the action today will be on Da trying to stay, now that she knows she is the target. I still don't expect a flip, but the key will be Paul, which at this point would be a mistake. He has set his plan in motion, and now needs to see it concluded. As I said before, the other key component to watch is Bridgette/Nat, but I am not sure that will come in to play today, but if B gains power, look for Nat to approach her.

**TTOTambz** · 08-03-2016, 09:11 AM

I just had an interesting thought. Since the house guests get to see what is in each care package the last one will be really tricky. Everyone will know the winner has a $5k bribe to hand out. Whoever wins it the house should just shadow them all week so they can't make a deal. AND that package more than any could get you put on the block so you use it for POV or a vote!

**KeninVA** · 08-03-2016, 09:48 AM

And Michelle's morning live feed conversation, which I have read, but not seen, is why Paulie will go far. Michelle wants Paul out, so that she can go back to her ideal F5, Nicole/Corey/Z/Paulie and herself, where magically both guys are booted and the F3 is Nicole and Z. In that same convo, she declares Nicole a snake, who she probably should not trust. That level of reasoning is what will kill all the girls off. Bridgette can't align with Michelle, since Michelle will not target the source of real power, Paulie.

**belle1** · 08-03-2016, 10:01 AM

Last night Paulie was the one who created the chaos that increased the suspicions and fears for the girls. His attack on Z was strictly personal and knew she was vulnerable especially after their 'bumper car activity' the night before. He even brought this up in his attack on her. I digress. The tension was so great that finally a few girls actually talk. Nat has been riding the fence about who to boot, but after that talk went to James and insisted that Da needed to stay. Frustrated, James bluntly said at best we can only get 4 votes, Paul will vote her out. James knows the Da boot is not good for him. He takes every opportunity to talk to Paul about booting Da being the best for them. Paulie has no intention of getting rid of Bridgette any time soon, he is only placating Paul, James and Corey. I am hoping that once Paul sees this he will begin questioning Paulie's intentions and remembers his talks with James resulting in a split between The P's. Also if Paulie tells Meech today that Da is the target (as he has said he will do), this action is directly against Paul's wishes. Could Paul be an instrument to boot Paulie?

I don't think that any of the events of last night will change the target for this week. I am holding my breath that Da indeed has the return ticket because I want to see the faces on Nic, Paulie, Victor and Paul. I do expect to see Da continue to coach the girls sans Nic today and tomorrow.

Now on my unabashed plug for James. I love his respect for the game. He clearly differentiates game verses personal. I have not heard him once put down or belittle anyone. After Paulie bluntly told Frank it was a lost cause for him, Paul was praising Paulie for this. James said I hope this is not the way it will always be, everyone has the right to petition for votes, it's the game. When Nic questioned him about voting Da out, James said that he has a personal connection not a game connection with Da. He also said that he did not want her to leave on a unanimous vote. James is playing the game and playing a bit different from last season. After that Paris Room talk with Nat, he began to show up more in the guy meetings, participating in the decisions to ensure his place in the group. He may not be the leader of the group, but does he need to be in order to win. Not all leaders win.

**ManaDee** · 08-03-2016, 11:06 AM

Hey all! I was away all day yesterday so I'm getting caught up with updates and discussions right now (always love the analysis here, you guys are awesome).

Last night I got to thinking about BB since I hadn't had my fix all day and a lightbulb hit me. I'm one of the ones who loved Paulie and his gameplay initially, but have been ready to see him in the hot seat and booted more and more over the last few weeks. He's arrogant and hypocritical, he can't stop talking about S16 like it's the only game of BB ever played before, and he's a douche to Z (even if she is a little googly eyed and annoying). The guy who had that convo last night is not the same guy that explained to Frank that he needs to be respecful of the women.

But anyway! Last night I was thinking what I would do if I were in the house, in order to get a Paulie boot. Usually this means inserting myself in the game in place of a player I find to be replaceable (in this season, it's Meech). So I am there instead of Meech. This is the only way I could have seen a Paulie boot this week (and prob last opportunity). Da gets evicted, gets the round trip pass and walks right back in. I win HOH. I nominate Corey and Paul. I tell Paulie that my REAL plan is to backdoor Victor. I tell him that Victor was already evicted, so I feel it's an easy pick for the house, and that Vic is so strong in comps he could start a comp run and beat all of us. I tell him I'm ok with getting Da out but both she AND victor have returned, and victor missed weeks, so i'd prefer to go for him, since he has a better chancwww.myfussyeater.com/two-ingredient-pancakes-for-baby-led-weaning/e at winning HOH and POV than Da. I tell Paulie I really wanted to put up two people that could easily win the VETO, and I thought about using him, but because he has won SO MANY comps already (needle needle to him that he might want to back off winning unless needed) esp just last week that I wouldn't want to put him in that position. I also tell him I really want to take cedit for this one, so I am hoping to win the VETO myself, take down one of the boys and nominate Victor so he knows it was my plan all along.

So, lots of false info for Paulie. I would tell Paulie to tell Victor if he asks that I want to backdoor Day and send her right back out. In truth, Paulie would be the only person I would NOT want to win the veto.

I believe that James and Nat could be turned against Paulie, with the confirmation of some info about Paulie and his dealings to James. This would be 3 votes (James Nat Day) to get Paulie out via backdoor. With Corey or Paul staying up, the 4th vote would come from either Nicole/Victor (depending on who stays up) making a tie vote that I break by evicting Paulie.

In my fantasy of it, both Paulie and Victor are picked for the POV and it comes down to us 3. I tell Paulie to throw it, because I have a deal to make to Victor (that I will use the VETO on Paul). Paulie drops, I tell Victor I'll use the POV on him and that both he AND Paul will be safe this week. Victor drops, I win VETO. I nominate Paulie. I break the tie.

Ahhh sigh. So perfect. And then I came here and read whats been going on and I know nothing like that can happen. Sigh.

**Shan** · 08-03-2016, 11:44 AM

Quick reminder for my Fantasy Players.. Don't forget to get your answers in for Round 6 here:

BBU - Big Brother 18 Fantasy Game - Round 6 (08/04-08/10) - Questions - Big Brother Updates

https://www.bigbrotherupdates.com/forum/big-brother-18/big-brother-18-fantasy-game/440062-bbu-big-brother-18-fantasy-game-round-6-08-04-08-10-questions

http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt303/BBFanShan/BB18/BB18FantasyLogo.jpg Round 6 : 08/04/16 - 08/10/16 Evicted (on 08/04): (20 pts) New HOH: (20 pts)

**misscmm** · 08-03-2016, 12:53 PM

I still think Paul is conflicted about the vote against Da .. not that he'll go against Paulie. We're all hoping that someone will start spilling the goods as Tiff did however, everyone is afraid they will be perceived as "not loyal". Even though they all lie, back stab, etc., they still want to hang on to some semblance of a code of conduct and even rats stay close to the big cheese. Although, Paulies minions are sitting there like the 3 monkeys - see no evil (Paul), hear no evil (Nic), say no evil (Cory).... or is it the three blind mice? Hmmm???

**TTOTambz** · 08-03-2016, 01:35 PM

Proving my point about Paulie throwing his allies UTB and the repercussions............ There was no need for Paulie to go at Zakiyah and tell her James said anything about Meech/Zak discussion as he already had Victor to pin it on.

Doing that meant both Zak and Meech approached James afterwards not happy he told Paulie and felt like he threw them UTB. I think all these things are adding up for James who now can check mark several things Paulie has done that are questionable. Seeing how irate Paulie got over Zak not knowing 3 people were in a room versus 2 (this of course is all an excuse to get mad at her) James has plenty of fuel to be ticked about vs Paulie:

1. Demanding he put up Frank/Bridgette when NEITHER were coming after James or Nat

2. Feigning ignorance over the nominations and fueling Frank's belief he was trying to help him stay led to him telling Brid to work with P

3. Telling Zak that James had come & shared comment of Zak/Meech ..

4. After promising to take out Bridg works overtime to change target to Da (just like he will every week to get out his top target)

5. Threw James UTB to Bridg (I think) saying he's trying to play Derrick's game

6. Demanding Da, Bridg, Zak be blindsided this week after giving Frank courtesy of knowing last week (prob b/c he's scared of what Da will say), but also to stop Da from giving any of the guys (Paul/James) her vote over him in case it's jury time.

7. Repeatedly targets Natalie behind James back

8. Keeps shifting targets which ostensibly could move James into the hot seat

There are lots of other ditties James could be mad about, but these stand out as reasons for James to not trust Paulie.

**maxxum26** · 08-03-2016, 01:37 PM

I have been very quite the last few weeks (vacations, very busy at work, and other worthless excuses). The main reason I've been quite is that I was raised by parents who taught me "if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all". This season is very frustrating to me. I struggle to find anyone in this house that I like for gameplay and for personal reasons. I like James personally, not a fan of his gameplay though. I like Paulie's gameplay, can't stand him personally. You get the point. I just have no rooting interest and that destroys a season for me. This same thing happened in S15 (I couldn't stand Andy, even though I respected the game he played then and especially now, I just know I couldn't play that game so it's hard for me to watch). I don't want to tune out a season, but with the announcement of S19 starting very quickly after 18, it makes it easier to let this 1 go.

As for what I think or want to happen in this game to make me keep tuning in...........hmmmmm, not sure. I don't want Day to get the round trip, because she won't win anything except for a care package and then she won't use that power correctly. I've mentioned before my thoughts on Day and how she sees the game perfectly, but can't execute. I know everyone (except myself and Ken) hate Paulie in this game. Paulie is the only 1 playing the game really. I don't want him taken out next week. If that happens, then this season could really sink. I do want Paulie to be on the block and manuever himself to safety. I don't want the Derrick season of never seeing the block and feeling real pressure. Paulie does need to feel it and have to actually see what level his game is at.

My last post went in depth about Nicole and my absolute disappointment in her this season, so I don't need to bring all that up again. So who has the ability to stand up and actually take a stand this season? Believe it or not, it is Natalie. She holds sway over James, and could get in good with Z and Meech. She can also bring over Bridgette. She is who I want to win the next HOH and watch all these rats scurry around trying to get a nip of cheese from her. I actually hope that if she is evicted during the round trip event that she is the 1 who gets to come right back in.

Anyway, thank you to everyone for keeping me informed on what is going on. I haven't turned on my feeds in 2 weeks now, so I've been reliant on the live feed updaters and everyone in here to keep me up to date. Hopefully it won't be so long before I post again.

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