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  • #31
    Another thing he just said should have made her go---"what" He was talking about Josh's game. He only improved because of them. When he won HOH, he did not know what to do and they had to tell him what to do.

    Well I have watched enough- leaving these crazy feeds. Paul is giving his final 4 moves to her and she does not see that it was his idea to get her out and that he wants her out.

    Thoughts with everyone in Florida, stay safe.

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    • #32
      I have no true horse in the race - haven't all season. From a pure likeability factor I favored a Kevin- Jason F2 simply b/c they were the least egregious people & seemingly the most loyal teammates.

      Paul definitely has earned it & while I didn't like him at all (grated on my nerves lol) last season I (like many) felt he deserved the win over Nicole. This year he's been more palatable for me b/c I don't care as much about the cast & at least I'm getting to see someone use a strategy however distasteful it is. To put that statement in perspective, please understand I'm not condoning the "method", rather my favorite part of BB is analyzing strategy (social, intellectual, emotional etc) and then coming here to share it. I took Ken In VA's advice a long time ago & try to remove my emotion. This b/c it's harder to analyze actions when your heart is involved. I never fully succeed, but I'm much better in that regard on a whole. This season was a cake walk (not getting invested). That's not to say I don't cheer on hamster's successes.

      For example, it was cool to see Josh gaining confidence & traction in the game. But these tears are annoying. Hey, the analytical side of me is WHY Josh WHY.. Even with Paul winning POV I would have gone to him & said you know I think it will look fishy if you tell her that, why don't you say I'm not going to use it, but I'll vote for Kevin & let Josh break the tie. It's okay Paul you've been such a great teammate I want to repay you for getting me to F3. Then I would have pulled aside Alex & told her, be calm tell Paul it's okay & Josh said he will be voting me out, but at least I won't leave 2-0. Then it would have put the emphasis on Paul to split the vote & Josh could have saved Alex with her knowing everything so she could win F4 HOH & POV & then take out Paul. The problem is Paul has played ALL their games ALL season, so when they are forced to think for themselves they screw it up (or that's what it seems like). If I were Paul, I think that would be part of my F2 speech. Looking back on the weeks as soon as Paul pulled away from strategizing with Jalex their games began to falter, ditto for Maven & now with Josh sputtering in his execution (or perhaps it's more appropriate to say inability to play b/c he's never been successful unless he was told what to do).

      Of the players remaining I had been pulling for Josh to do something unexpected, but this recent meltdown & tantrum seems to be stemming fully from jealousy (over Christmas) & greed ($$$). He's doing so many things himself that he's bashed others for the hypocrisy is palpable. I guess I'm also tired of the tears. Just be a grown up, make your strategy & do it. (but that's the thing I'm not sure Josh is capable of winning unless he's thrown a comp). Like most players when they recognize their game is over they go through a similar path as the 5 stages of death. Alex is currently in that process. Like all the players about to leave I feel for Alex despite how mean she was to Kevin & in spite of her throwing her own game away weeks ago.

      I'm not as anti Christmas as a lot b/c she has demonstrated a true loyalty & honesty to her core 3. Sure, she's no saint, & yeah she can be a real b*tch , but she's dealt with Josh more than anyone (which has to be extremely draining).

      Paul deserves the win b/c he's the ONLY one who played the entire season & was predominantly successful. If I had my druthers I'd love to see anyone show some semblance of game ability & strategy. Whether that was Josh as per above, Alex via executing a plan to make Paul think he HAS to use the POV or in concert with Josh to save her or even Kevin to pull out a blindside F4 HOH win & put up Paul get the other 2 to study with him so they could win POV & vote him out. Hey I'm just thirsting for strategic play. Aside from that I can give you an argument for & against each of the 4 (outside Paul) on their pluses & minuses. At this point anyone else winning besides Paul would require an asterisk beside their name.

      That said, I will be delighted if anyone proves me wrong & develops/delivers a successful oust of Paul I just don't think it will happen (unless someone gets lucky in part 3 & shocks us all) If I had to pick one person to sit beside the inevitably finalist Paul I guess I'm hoping it's Kevin but my reasons aren't why you think..... it's so he can deliver a missive on bullying & respect for elders. That would probably make my day to see this entire cast be put in their place & have the audience roar with approval.

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      • magoopy
        magoopy commented
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        I agree with you. Above the fact that Paul is bulldozing his way through the game, I am more disappointed in how others have treated Kevin. I feel for his six daughters and son going through their father being ostracized, and worse while he was doing what Paul told him to do, being talked about so terribly. I hope that Kevin is in the F2 and gives a speech similar to what you have said~life lessons.

    • #33
      Here's an interesting read... from the Inquisitr


      ‘BIG BROTHER’ LEGEND WILL KIRBY TALKS SEASON 19, EXPLAINS WHY PAUL ABRAHAMIAN’S ‘DIRTY’ GAMEPLAY WORKS


      Big Brother 19 is getting mixed reviews from fans—and from some show alums—but one person who stands behind the long-running CBS reality show is Dr. Will Kirby. The Big Brother veteran, who won the second season of the summertime show and placed fourth in the all-stars season, is considered the greatest Big Brother player of all time. Kirby, affectionately known as Dr. Delicious by Big Brother diehards, not only coined the term “showmance,” but he has been the host of the show’s jury roundtable since Season 15. It’s no wonder he has some strong opinions about Big Brother and this season’s controversial cast.

      We caught up with Will Kirby to find out what he thinks about this season’s volatile Big Brother cast, their personal attacks, and puppet master Paul Abrahamian’s “dirty” gameplay.

      Inquisitr: What do you think of this season’s Big Brother cast? Do you have a favorite player?

      Will Kirby: It’s a fascinating, dynamic cast as per the usual and I always remain completely unbiased when watching. As such, no player is my favorite – I find redeeming qualities in each of them. Each player is mesmerizing in his or her own unique way.

      Your “I hate you all” speech is one of the most iconic Big Brother moments of all time. But this season the hate seems to be real, in some cases. Do you think this cast’s personal attacks against each other have gone too far?

      Stop. “One of?” It’s the most iconic moment in the history of unscripted television. Do your research, sweetheart. Now back to the question: While some may say that the personal attacks have gone too far, I say that all is fair in love and war. And in Big Brother. And this isn’t politics. It isn’t an elementary school. Each contestant is an adult who willingly signed up to play. Is hate present on the show? Sure. But isn’t that why we watch? What do you think the ratings would be like if the houseguests all sat around at night and sang ‘Kumbaya?’

      What do you think of all of the twists and changes that have come into play since your season?

      The twists keep things exciting. Please understand, the game has to evolve – it’s just the nature of entertainment. It’s the nature of life. And the irony? The most vocal opponents to game twists are former players who benefited from twists or former players who wished that had benefited from twists. It’s remarkable how so many former players, crappy players, lucky players, are just jealous that they didn’t maximize their own shot. Lots of sour grapes being eaten by former houseguests as a snack during this season’s broadcasts.

      What do you think of Paul’s gameplay?

      Paul is implementing a dirty version of Derrick [Levasseur] or Dan’s [Gheesling] strategy – preying on the naive and impressionable. And that strategy can obviously work. See, those guys mastered their respective season because they crafted alliances with people they knew they could manipulate. Just like Paul, they weren’t born with good looks or charisma so they sharpened their predatory skills to trick the mentally vulnerable. It works. And kudos to all of them! Mad respect to them and all winners!

      Do you think he was given unfair advantages this season?

      Anyone who is unhappy with Paul’s game is, again, jealous. Was he given advantages? Arguably so. But can we fault him for taking ownership of a given opportunity and running with it? He would have been foolish not to.



      If you could give advice to one Big Brother contestant still left in the house, who would it be and what would you tell him/her?

      My advice for any and all Big Brother players left in the house is the exact same as my advice to anyone and everyone outside of the house: Prioritize your family first and take all necessary steps to make sure your actions benefit them and make them proud.

      Who do you think deserves to win Big Brother 19?

      Not different than any other season, the person who is most deserving of the win is always declared the winner. That individual did whatever it took to be the last contestant standing and whether it be luck, blinding intelligence, charismatic social acumen, kinetic physicality, or a combination of all of these characteristics, the stars aligned for him or her at that exact moment when it counted the most. Every single Big Brother winner earned their win.

      A few Big Brother alums are calling this the worst season ever. Do you agree with that?

      Absolutely not. Who would state that? Just the bitter, the jealous, and the uninteresting. After all, there is a reason why most former houseguests fade into the background while a select few remain relevant. Worst season ever? It’s way, way, way too early to make any judgment about this season. Let’s agree to not call the game until that last whistle blows. And don’t let the “only two weeks left” timeline fool you – there are still seven houseguests remaining!

      What would you like to see Big Brother do for its 20th season next summer?

      My only expectation is that CBS and Fly On The Wall are going to crank out another exhilarating season bookended by fantastic interviews from CBS interactive.

      Do you think we will ever see another all-stars cast?

      You never know when the old matador might finally return to the arena to slay some of these jealous bulls.

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      • #34
        Oooooooooooooh, just read Dr Will's interview (thanks for posting that @Lexie ) I like his analogy of Paul using a dirty Derrick/Dan strategy (preying on the impressionable/naive). And in true Dr Will fashion saying only the jealous, bitter & irrelevant former BB players would call this season the worst ever before it's even over (even in print he oozes charm, lol). But by far my FAVORITE response was his closing line regarding what the 20th season might hold:

        You never know when the old matador might finally return to the arena to slay some of these jealous bulls.
        After his previous response about jealous former players this sure did pique my interest to wonder if he's hinting he's due to return. I could even stomach all those pink & red haired players who make me shudder if it meant another full season of Dr. Will. Imagine this generation of BB fans getting to watch Dr Will on live feeds all summer with a full on demonstration of how to maximize charm, wit & strategy to it's nth degree. I'm giddy just thinking my All-Time favorite hinted at that (oh pretty please BB Gods... make that a reality).

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        • #35
          Oooooooooooooh, just read Dr Will's interview (thanks for posting that @Lexie ) I like his analogy of Paul using a dirty Derrick/Dan strategy (preying on the impressionable/naive). And in true Dr Will fashion saying only the jealous, bitter & irrelevant former BB players would call this season the worst ever before it's even over (even in print he oozes charm, lol). But by far my FAVORITE response was his closing line regarding what the 20th season might hold:

          You never know when the old matador might finally return to the arena to slay some of these jealous bulls.
          After his previous response about jealous former players this sure did pique my interest to wonder if he's hinting he's due to return. I could even stomach all those pink & red haired players who make me shudder if it meant another full season of Dr. Will. Imagine this generation of BB fans getting to watch Dr Will on live feeds all summer with a full on demonstration of how to maximize charm, wit & strategy to it's nth degree. I'm giddy just thinking my All-Time favorite hinted at that (oh pretty please BB Gods... make that a reality).

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          • #36
            Cool: Doctor Will agrees with me on my contention of Paul's Play ☺

            "What do you think of Paul’s gameplay?

            Paul is implementing a dirty version of Derrick [Levasseur] or Dan’s [Gheesling] strategy – preying on the naive and impressionable. And that strategy can obviously work."

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            • #37
              Have a theory on Josh's tears. As a kid he probably used them to get his way with Momma. It's the oldest trick in the book. He wants to get Paul & Christmas to split the votes so he can thwart their plan to vote out Alex. Josh wants to keep her to take a shot at Paul. And he can get rid of Kevin who he hates. I doubt they'll fall for it unless Kevin does something really squirrelly.

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              • TTOTambz
                TTOTambz commented
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                Yep... funny though did you notice as soon as Josh thought that his position had improved & Paul's had regressed he was happier? Funny thing is I've never felt Alex has a very good read of the house. Her chat with Paul kind of reflects this b/c the fact she thinks Xmas could beat Paul (or Kevin) is mind boggling to me. IMHO Josh actually has the best shot at getting votes b/c they'll credit him for his change since early in the game & cite his blow-ups as pivotal to putting targets on them. I still think Paul's best order of who to take if he has the choice is 1) Kevin 2) Xmas & 3) Josh.

                Then again we know the house will learn of Paul's hi-jinx to all of them when they are all together. And, how about Alex saying she threw all those comps. That's one part of her personality that annoyed me. She even admitted Cody threw the first POV to her & we know Paul told people if Alex is up there we're good earlier in the season. She did the same thing with Jason on the last wall comp where he was far more comfortable than her. But, I get it, she's upset that she's leaving.

                These hamsters always make me laugh b/c they paint the narrative how they want. Alex expected Xmas to roll over & just be a vote to move Jalex ahead, Josh to be someone they could sick on Kevin & as a vote. And Paul was always just someone to get her & Jason to the end & who would take her as a back up to Jason. It's humorous b/c the minute Paul stopped working closely with Alex (in terms of strategy) her game got derailed. That in itself kind of speaks to how active he was with Jalex. Complaining now about throwing comps or doing what Paul wanted only serves to show she was playing his game too.

                I'm personally going to enjoy the fact Alex has to leave with Kevin sitting beside her. It's sweet deserving karma for how she treated him IMHO

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