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**sdkgeo** · 08-13-2015, 05:39 AM

Morning all. Happy Eviction Day.

**Twirlly** · 08-13-2015, 06:05 AM

Good morning BBU

Eviction Day is here......are we positive who is going? I feel fairly sure that Shelli will be going.

I turned on feeds a bit ago and saw what I thought was a fraction in TBM. Jackie in HoH with Becky. Becky lamenting that Van will be staying, Jackie not taking a firm stand but swaying. Meg and James in HN worried that Jackie is swaying, concerned about how much time she has been in HoH with Becky. Meg/James decided that even if Jackie flips, with the Austwins they still have votes to send Shelli out. I leave to get ready to work, turn feeds back on and all seem right with the TBM.

It took me a very long time to warm up to this season and even longer to really pull for anyone. I'm still not 100% behind someone, however, I did realize this week how much I didn't want to see Vanessa leave. So, I guess I'm in the station, standing in line to buy the ticket for the Van/James train. But, I could join the theme of the season and flip and flop....and flip and flop. I think I'm more sure in who I want gone than I am in who I want in F2.

This has been a great season so far!

**Luanne** · 08-13-2015, 06:25 AM

Good morning all, don't you just love it when something in real life makes you log out of the feeds before you want to. I was afraid to read this morning. I thought maybe the votes had flipped again. I was happy Vanessa is staying. I still think there is a good chance she goes on the first HOH.

I think Steve may throw it again. He does not want to make a move yet. He does not want any blood on his hand. He is not fooling the other houses guest. They know he is throwing because the two times he needed the POV, he won very easily.

Why does Vanessa always go to Jackie and try to work something. Jackie can not stand her and will never work with her.

I do not know what to think about Johnny. I thought he was just waiting to make right move, but not sure now.

If Julia wins and does what she said she would do in the DE, wow, wow, heads will roll.

I have so much to do today but will check in later. I can not wait to read everyone's thoughts on this crazy game.

**TTOTambz2** · 08-13-2015, 06:41 AM

Morning Geo,Twirlly, Luanne NoNo, Ken and all

Well Shelli made her pitch starting off by telling James he was lucky she was in the room. Say what????

She's been after James forever and suddenly he's suppose to believe she just switched sides. Ummm NO!

Becky made progressively more frantic pleas to keep Shelli throughout the day and vacillated between understanding the TBM point then returning to another rant culminating in her storming out of the room. James, (who is one of the more forgiving hamsters) can get past the rat finking but he isn't happy she called him a sexist. Jackie has been put in a very awkward position playing mediator but the mice will evict Shelli b/c they are the team who keeps their sites on their original target best. It was Becky who wanted Van out NOT THEM.

Steve & JMac are both acting sketchy and both have made overtures indicating they might join TBM.

The twins (who btw are getting on my last nerve) announced they don't intend to work with TBM & will actually go after James & Jackie if they win DE HOH ... sure hope that doesn't happen. To that end, I think I'd enjoy JMac winning DE HOH so he finally gets his wish to play. Odds are he'll put up the twins & back door Vanessa. That works for me b/c it keeps the mice safe & will refocus the short attention span of the twins onto him. The twins are actually starting to remind me of Shelli in that they feel they deserve to be there more than others, but in reality they've been protected by 4 big shields: Vanessa, Austin, Shelli & Clay and have no true affinity to protect any of those people (though I suspect Julia's ties to Vanessa are real) and literally spend their days opining on how much they hate someone to shifting back to loving them minutes later. Ken made the point you can only trust what they say when together, but even those conversations change on a daily basis.

Vanessa is never content to just lie back spent the day running around trying to shore up her ties with EVERYONE: James, Jackie, the twins, Liztin, Steve and even JMac. Her council to Julia to go ahead & target James/Jackie works for her (Vanessa) as it's taking out a target she promised not to go after, but it would actually be bad for the Austwins since they are a solid team of three, four with Becky & likely five with JMac. That means if Julia were to win DE HOH & go after TBM she would be sounding the battle cry since ABM + TrainMac (minus whoever left) would immediately gun for Austwins in the next HOH likely keeping Vanessa around to reduce the trio to a duo. I know I love my mice, but I also feel it's a bad move by the twins as they would be leaving 2 players (JMac/Becky) in the house along with either Jackie or James (as one would likely leave in this scenario) coming after them ... not great odds IMO considering their comp abilities vs one twin/Austin.

We never got our queen blow-up which isn't too surprising given Shelli isn't one for straight forward confrontations ie. she likes to conduct her vitriol behind backs and closed doors. Can't say I'm sad about her impending eviction b/c I've never liked her and wanted her out for weeks.

Tonight we get the manic excitement of the DE which it seems like a picture recall comp for HOH, though TPTB could be playing with the hamsters and it could be the second HOH comp. Given the comp I'd say we have several contenders with only James and Austin likely not being good at it or possibly not feeling the need to win it.

This should be Steve's comp to dominate but will he even want to? If he truly wants to align with TBM then he'll go for it & blindside his old team by taking out Vanessa. More likely he'd gun for his nemesis Becky so I'd say he'll throw it.

That leaves JMac & Vanessa feeling the most dire need to win and depending on who is in the late running we'll see who else feels compelled to win. I still feel this may be Meg's night b/c it just feels like a comp she could win and given it's Jason's birthday also poetic.

One thing I'm interested to see is if all the TBM/Becky &/or JMac remain after DE & then one of them win the 2nd HOH if Vanessa sells out the twins regarding their DE plans to target Jackie/James in DE ... will she or won't she tell them that info if she knows she's leaving otherwise? So far she's been careful about protecting the SS but with her back against the wall would that change?

I'm hoping for a DE HOH win by JMac ... I want to see him live up to our expectations AND I want nice things for NoNo plus I want to see someone from the Vaustwins side leave.

Happy Eviction Day all... Place your bets & see ya never Shelli!

**KeninVA** · 08-13-2015, 06:55 AM

Morning all,

Vanessa sealed the deal for 30 extra minutes of game life early this morning in the bathroom talking to Jackie. She is still in Austin, Julia, Vanessa or Liz win or go home territory, and I am not sure in a Jmac/Steve initial nom, with one of them getting off, Austin doesn't seal his fate and hers, by putting Vanessa up, who will then go home. Julia gets the deal is not actually worth very much, as TBM discuss follow on plans. Jackie's boot order, Vanessa in the double, Liz, Jmac, Austin, Steve, Julia, and hope Becky gets put out along the way. James and Meg are starting to think about how close Becky is to Jackie, and they know, Becky can't get close to final 4, or they can't beat her.

Right now, the sure thing is Shelli goes home first.

In the double, the targets are Jmac, Steve, Vanessa, James, Jackie and Becky, depending on who is HoH. Safest in that group is Becky, followed by Jackie /James, Steve, then Jmac, with Vanessa likely to go home against anyone but Jmac (if in the speed of the double, James votes with his perceived self interest, and votes out Jmac over Vanessa).

Short notes:

Meg and James discuss voting out Shelli and lying about it. Jackie rescued them from that by confirming she is voting out Shelli first.

Jackie has a pretty good read on how to dismantle the remaining Sixth Sense. (Vanessa in the double, then Liz, Austin who will likely beg to be sent to Jury, then Julia, viewed as a weaker comp threat, and unable to think about the game in a strategic sense.).

Vanessa failed to re-order the house (a real missed opportunity, I think) , and what might turn out to be the big gun competitors, Jmac and Steve, are about to come out of the woodwork. Jmac might actually succeed in bridging the Steve/Becky divide, which would give them a huge leg up in pushing to the mid jury phase. (Becky will have no problem flopping away from TBM, Jackie's blind spot to Becky is going to be her undoing.)

There are 3 styles of play at work here. The first are the defensive fear based players. This is Steve, Jmac, Austin (and to a lesser extant, Liz). There are the odds calculators, which is Vanessa, James and Meg, and then there are the emotional players (loyalty driven or anger) in Jackie, Becky and Julia.

TBM are going to get Austwins out, because Austin, especially, plays from fear, and doesn't understand concepts like spreading risk, economy of force, or group strength. He incorrectly thinks that TBM will stick to the "deal" for the six of them, because they operate from the same fear based game he does. They don't, and so won't feel compelled to let this 6 person truce last more than F8 round. The spoilers in their march, will be Jmac and Steve, with Becky, who could easily be the last three standing.

Exiting times tonight, as a large group of HG's are at risk, everyone but the idiot Austin are planning to fight for HoH and PoV, and the potential for the demise of SS to be revealed by Friday morning (Vanessa out in the double, Jmac/Steve F9 HoH).

**nonobadfish** · 08-13-2015, 07:03 AM

Morning, everyone! Happy DOUBLE eviction day.

Thank you, TTO, for wanting a JMac HoH win tonight. I sure do hope it happens...I woke up in the middle of the night and couldn't go back to sleep, and I saw several things that either made me happy or made me worry.

Made me worry:
1. Julia told Vanessa that she would nominate James and Jackie if she wins HoH tonight. Vanessa did NOT discourage her. (So again. Vanessa lies. Swears on her life but lets her minions do the work. When will we learn?). I don't know if Julia can win HoH, but it makes me nervous.

2. Everyone keeps talking about nominating JMac. If he goes out tonight, I can only have high hopes that he fights his way back in.

3. The ADC seems to think Vanessa isn't going to be good in tonight's memory comp. They're basing that on her poor Comic PoV memory performance (She did come in next to last). I hope they're not underestimating her comp skills.

Made me happy:
1. Ken is wrong and James is not doing any side deals with Vanessa. He's sticking completely with Meg/Jackie and is willing to let them decide how to vote and he'll follow their lead after he has his say. (I know it appears that Ken being wrong is what makes me happy, and while that makes me smile a tiny smile, what I'm really happy about is that Vanessa isn't going to get James, at least not while Meg and Jackie are there. ((((KeninVA)))))) )

2. JMac might be good at this HoH comp. Steve should be VERY good at this HoH comp.

3. Late last night, Vanessa was trying to get Austin to bully James/Meg/Jackie and tell them that if they vote out Vanessa, the Austwins will come after them. What made me happy is that Vanessa is staying true to form and even if she makes it through the DE tonight, she's going to continue to make enemies which hopefully means she'll be out soon.

**nonobadfish** · 08-13-2015, 07:13 AM

I don't think this will happen, but I am going to at least point it out: In the last few seasons, the DE has included a Quiz HoH and a physical PoV (Clown Shoe Run and Find Something in a Pile Comp).

But there have been years where the first HoH was the physical Clown Shoe style comp, and they used the Quiz Comp as PoV.

Since Becky was studying for the Memory Quiz comp, it IS possible that they could reverse the order of comps tonight and put the physical before the quiz. (Or they could make the memory comp they all studied for as the second HoH comp later tonight).

TPTB have played these sort of tricks on us before. So it could be anyone's game. Probably will be the way we think (Memory Quiz HoH, Physical PoV), but one never knows for sure.

**nonobadfish** · 08-13-2015, 07:29 AM

One more thing. The twins are starting to really irritate me. Their act was fun for awhile, but I'm over it. They know nothing about Big Brother. They are only there because the Twinning show didn't cast them, and they want the show exposure. They have done nothing except be a vote, and now they have become convinced that they are expert gamers who are far more deserving of being in the game than other HGs. Their entertainment value has run its course for me. I don't necessarily want them evicted yet because they aren't going to win the game either way, but I do want to say, "I'm Twin Tired."

(I was already Twin Tired even before Julia announced that she wants to get out James and Jackie. If anything, that at least is a game move which shows Julia's trying to be relevant. It's a bad game move, but at least she's moving.)

**Ramona7581** · 08-13-2015, 07:57 AM

Good morning, BBU folks! Hope all is well in your worlds!

I'm happy that Shelli is leaving, but I hate that Vanessa is staying - even for 30 minutes!

As soon as she thinks she's safe, Vanessa starts the same old backstabbing, double dealing, low down, two-faced, snake-in-the-grass, talking-down-to-others nonsense that showcases her true lack of integrity/loyalty/character! (Did I cover it all? Probably not.)

I hope she ends up right back in that nomination chair tonight!

I'm so tired of her 'let's make a deal so I can get someone else to break it' and her 'deny, deny, deny' as well as the 'my integrity, my honor, my loyalty' rants. Enough!

Vanessa: You need to keep your poisonous little fingers off of JMac and my Mouseketeers!

I'm thinking JMac and TBM are wise enough to steer clear of any alliances with her, but it is BB...

**DanCuy** · 08-13-2015, 08:11 AM

Will we see one of Vanessa's patented tearful melt down fights with her target a la Jeff, Audrey, Clay sometime this afternoon? I can see her attacking Shelli, Becky, or John.

**Myragirl** · 08-13-2015, 08:21 AM

Morning everyone, Vanessa started plotting last night. She correctly recognized when Austin kept insisting that JMac instead of Becky should be the target if Vanessa wins HoH in DE that SS is dead, so is F&Gs, and she is at the bottom of the 4. If she wasn't trying to reconfigure, I would be very disappointed in her gameplay. Austin has cut Vanessa, and is now focused on JMac. I want JMac in the house more than I want Becky. I don't like Jackie's tie to Becky. I think it will be TBM's undoing or at least James', because Becky is very cutthroat, and doesn't really like James. Best case scenario for me is Shelli and Becky in the DE. I want James, JMac, and Vanessa left in the house tonight after DE. They all have a high probably of being evicted with Vanessa the highest and James the lowest. I think that if JMac gets evicted tonight, he has the highest chance of coming back in. But I would rather he wasn't evicted. I want to see how he will play after both Clay and Shelli are out of the game. Here's hoping tonight goes well.

**deniset** · 08-13-2015, 08:24 AM

It gives me great pleasure to see Shelli have to beg James for his vote. Especially since she is never going to get it. She could promise him the moon and he would never trust her or believe her because he knows if she stays and wins HOH he is walking out the door. She waited too long to come talk to him and then got into the childishness of 'Shirtgate.' Add to that she is throwing Vanessa UTB every chance she gets while Vanessa refuses to say anything about her. James saw how hard Vanessa has protected Shelli in the past and her stabbing Vanessa in the back is not helping her cause as far as he is concerned IMO.

**amj0715** · 08-13-2015, 09:26 AM

I have to say that I have been enjoying BB a lot more than the past couple of years. Last year, I pretty much quit watching much around this time. However, I think they realized this year that they don't need a lot of twists during the game to make it interesting. All they have to do is cast a diverse group of people and let them actually play the game.

With all that being said, I think that this week is an interesting week. I don't really have any favorites in the house so I am not personally invested in who goes home and who stays in the game. However, I do think that the HG have already forgot that whoever leaves this week still has a chance to come back into the game. I would be keeping that in the back of my mind when considering who should go home. They keep saying that they are scared of Shelli because she can win competitions ... which could be a reason to keep her because someone is coming back into the house. And if you are somehow evicted within the next couple of weeks, who are you going to have to possibly compete against to come back into the house? I would be keeping that in mind as well. Secondly, it is a toss up between Shelli and Vanessa as they have both won two HOH competitions, so their overall reasoning is a bit flawed.

Then, let's talk about the Goblins (James, Jackie and Meg) and their complete lack of understanding of what is happening in the house. I think that they have been sleeping too much and not really paying attention to everything that is going on in the house. If they had, the Jason blindside might not have been such a blindside. They mentioned last night that they did not think that Vanessa was as close to the Austwins that Shelli is trying to make them believe. Shelli basically came out and told them that Austin, Liz, Julia and Vanessa are really close and that without Vanessa, Austin and the twins wouldn't know what to do in the game. Shelli is actually correct in that reasoning and Austin and the twins said that among themselves earlier this week when they thought Vanessa was going to be evicted.

In my opinion they are going after the wrong people in the first place. Why go after Johnny Mac and Steve who seem to be alone in the game? Why not nominate and try to evict Liz? If you evict Liz then you break up TWO very tight two-some groups and one very tight three-some group. When you remove Liz you break up Austin/Liz and Liz/Julia. Julia doesn't like Austin so while she may not nominate him if she won HOH, she isn't going to go out of her way to protect him either. Liz is the glue holding the three of them together. I would work on eliminating the definite twosomes. They said that was why they were splitting up Shelly and Clay, right? So why are you targeting Shelli now when she doesn't have a TIGHT, unbreakable bond with anyone else in the house? Why not go after Liz who is insulated by her relationship with Austin and her twin sister, Julia?

So it looks as if Shelli will be evicted tonight in the first part of the double-eviction. Steve has said that he is planning to throw the first HOH competition tonight. It will be very interesting to see who the second person is out of the house tonight. I think Vanessa may end up lasting another week or so in the house. If Vanessa and the Austwins remain intact in the house after this double eviction and going into next week the Goblins are in A LOT of trouble in that house.

I truly believe that Shelli's only shot at staying in the house tonight would be if she exposed the Sixth Sense alliance but I am not sure that she is willing to do that. If she could prove to the Goblins that Vanessa, Austin and the twins have been working together very closely for WEEKS, she could possibly save herself in the game. But I don't see her blowing up the alliance, even though that is her best shot. Then again, perhaps she is trying to preserve her relationship with them somewhat just in case she has the chance to come back into the house.

It should be an interesting week in the BB house this week. I think with the number of HG left and one returning, we should have at least 2 double eviction weeks ... if not three. I really like double eviction weeks because it speeds things up quite a bit in the house and shakes things up. My biggest pet peeve with BB is that they tend to follow the same pattern/schedule each year so the HG can kind of predict when things are happening. They will not be surprised by the DE as they are expecting it to happen. I wish that BB would shake things up each year so that the HG couldn't predict when something is about to happen. Now that would make things interesting in the house.

**KittyBoodles** · 08-13-2015, 09:43 AM

Good morning everyone!

I totally agree and also wish BB would shake things up so the HG's can't predict the comps. There are so many great comps on other BB shows, I just don't know why they recycle so much.
Also, I don't ever want the BOB again.

Lots of scheming and lying and crying the last several weeks!

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