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**sdkgeo** · 08-21-2015, 05:38 AM

Morning all. So this week may not be so bad after all as long as we're careful viewing the HoH camera/ LOL

I hope he sticks with the Steve/John nominations and if there's a chance to get Vanessa on the block he should go for it. Don't be a coward.

**KimCinOKC** · 08-21-2015, 05:53 AM

Thank you so much to all the live feeders. You make my summer!!!!

**sdkgeo** · 08-21-2015, 06:19 AM

Morning KimCin.

So, maybe Vanessa goes straight up on the block and they tell her she's a pawn. lol

**BettyBoo** · 08-21-2015, 07:11 AM

Morning, y'all, it's cloudy and cold in Detroit area. Sort of how I feel about BB after Austin win. Imagine Vanessa is feeling like Michael Jackson, 'My cute little Bubbles is all grown up and is now dangerous.' My first thought was he will nom John and Steve, leaving Vanessa as the possible back door, which I see most of us are thinking. The trio feels comfortable with James and Meg, but if Vanessa won Veto and took down Steve (outside possibility), Austin would have to put up either James or Meg next to John. Logic would say he'd use the auto-pawn, Meg, but this is BB17, so who the halibut knows.

I am guessing Vanessa may survive this week only because of the returning player question. When they kill her, they don't want her coming back. Better to lose a vote in Jury, then to end up in Jury yourself. And I doubt she has the ability to influence votes in Jury, since there's resentment growing to her actions, which is why she's been isolated now in the house. But, if she survives to the end, her verbal manipulation could be recognized as good game play, depending on who sits next to her and the mood that day.

**herms is here** · 08-21-2015, 07:19 AM

Just from seeing shell's and Jackie's comments, even though they maybe bitter now, if Vanessa ends up in the F2 I can see the win going to her. I guess that I am still picturing a Vanessa win if not one of the twins.

**Ladychef** · 08-21-2015, 07:25 AM

I had the feeds on last night and Vanessa's motor mouth was utterly exhausting!and if she says "you understand" one more time... I do worry about the twins being persuaded by her. And whoever thought Austin would be this far in the game?

**BettyBoo** · 08-21-2015, 07:32 AM

Austin is desperate to get back in the WWE since he left with a back injury a couple years ago and saw a reality show as his ticket back in. He is a camera hog, first using Jace, then Liz, now James to gain showtime. We see him negatively, but I imagine that plays well in wrestling? I'm sure, like Jessie, he can use this as a cottage industry of self-promotion, but he'll never become The Rock or John Cena. If he can win the game (yeah, threw-up in my mouth a little), he can do another summer in All-Stars. But, he'll never be a real star in entertainment, just a minor celebrity.

Just wonder when he gets out of the bubble, if he'll have the self-awareness to realize how little he is liked by the fans or worse respected. And how will he handle that? I respect that Dan and Derrick went back to their lives and a bit of normality, keeping themselves anchored in the real world. Have the feeling Austin will not do as well as he thinks he will in his entertainment career or life.

**TTOTambz2** · 08-21-2015, 07:33 AM

BettyBoo...
She was ahead of the game early last night but couldn't leave well enough alone. She's lost Steve for good I think with her actions/words. By the way Ken if she's willing to out his F2 with JMac secret to an alliance she's in with him then I doubt she's worried about holding anything else back if things get dicey.

I know Austin shared that intel with the Goblins did he tell Steve?

With Austin convinced not to even target her she then chooses to lie about not having knowledge James threw BOTB (um... it was her plan) & she told Austin he owes her. She went from being 98% safe to possibly the main target.

To TPTB ... stop letting her use "gifts" as a strategy. She's filthy rich so she can afford to do that... I don't think that's cool.

If Vanessa is on the block after POV I guarantee her paranoia won't allow her to keep quiet about the early alliances AND she'll make sure to explain the NUMBERS to the Goblins regarding why the trio must be broken up immediately. Austin is actually smart though b/c I honestly think even if the Goblins went at them (next week) or had to vote between him/Liz they'd keep him since they are closer to him.

I have a feeling if Becky comes back she'll gun for the twins & she'll try to get Jackie/Shelli on board with that too. Whoever returns I think they'll have a clear target of Liz/Austin/Vanessa as their priorities since I believe Shelli (might) be able to be convinced to let the James thing go for the time being although I much prefer Jackie to return (or even Becky).

Can any JMac fans confirm/deny for me if he really pulled his hammy or threw the comp? He went out right after Vanessa right? If he threw it at this stage that's crazy & once again he volunteered to be a pawn. JMac is really making me question his choices.

Twins really have to stop being mean girls & prodigy's of Shelli's elitism club. Also sorry Julia but I see right through you... Vanessa told you she'll gift you a car & suddenly you want to work with her again.

**TTOTambz2** · 08-21-2015, 07:40 AM

As per my post last night James is Austin's bromance (he likes him the most of all the guys) even citing the fact he has more fun with them. AND like I said Austin's goal in this game is screen time. He's a super fan & has figured out James is popular so between his upstairs hijinx with Liz & downstairs pranks with James it offers him what he probably feels is the best of all worlds.

Anyone besides me hoping the Zingbot lets Liztin know ... we know?

**nonobadfish** · 08-21-2015, 07:43 AM

Morning everyone! So Austin was going to throw the HoH....it probably made sense for him to throw the HoH....but instead he won HoH mainly because he wants the HoH room with Liz. The twins continue to have no idea how to play the game (Julia's reason for wanting to get rid of JMac? Because he yells in the DR) and there is no hope of losing an Austwin this week. Sigh.

We could lose JMac, though, if he doesn't win PoV. And that would be fitting since Zach was my favorite player last year and he went home this exact same week. That similarity triggered my curiosity because I don't have favorites every year, so I looked at attwx to see if there is a nonobadfish jinx on HGs I like (I don't know the real term, but I call it the F8 eviction because it happens when their are 8 in the house and 7 after they are evicted:

BB13 Dani D out at F8 eviction
BB14 My Brit out at F8 eviction
BB16 Zach out at F8 eviction
BB17 JMac (if evicted ) would be F8 eviction

THIS IS NOT GOOD. I think I'm going to have to wait an pick a favorite every year AFTER they get down to 7 HGs????????

That is kinda weird, isn't it, that my favorites all go out the exact same time? Hoping JMac breaks the curse, but I survived all those other years, so I can survive if he leaves this year too.

Someone has to come back in next week that will take out the Austwins. That may be our only hope.

**TTOTambz2** · 08-21-2015, 07:43 AM

WHEN did Clay/James ever have a F2??? I read Steve outed that last night & I don't ever remember that being the case.

**nonobadfish** · 08-21-2015, 07:47 AM

I do think we have some promise of drama this week...I read that Vanessa is worried about the way Austin is treating her (again) and that no one is talking to her. She asked Steve a bit ago if she could talk to him and he answered, "No" because he's not in the right frame of mind. Then she asked if she could talk and all he had to do is listen. He again answered, "No." Of course she talked anyway, but she's going to hit paranoid Vanessa soon (if she's not already there).

Gotta run....y'all have fun and be sweet.

**BettyBoo** · 08-21-2015, 07:50 AM

Knowing Zingbot is coming is the only happy spot this week. Even cancelled BBAD last night - couldn't take any more slurpy face or sea gull screachs from the twins. If I was stuck in the house with them, I'd do a Steve and run to a quiet room and hide out. Maybe John isn't playing Pawn Boy, maybe he really wants out??!!

**Ladychef** · 08-21-2015, 08:03 AM

TTOTambz2-thank you- guess I better pay closer attention-yikes! I can't believe that would be allowed.

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