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**Shan** · 09-12-2015, 06:40 AM

Good Morning BBU'rs

Well..I fell asleep waiting for the feeds to return last night ..sitting right here in my chair with my laptop in my lap

Lexie...not feeling well and all ....stuck it out as she always does and brought us all the news when they came back. They went with Frankie (ugh) to Ariana's concert (ugh again...used to like her..not anymore). I found it hilarious to read that Austin asked if Frankie asked about him/them and Liz answered 'no' ...hahaha And even more hilarious that Austin thinks there are ''Liztin tributes'' on YouTube.

As for noms, not surprised one bit but still disappointed in Vanessa's choice. And JMac.... *sigh* what in the world is he thinking/doing??? If he really does throw the POV trusting Liztin, he's an idiot and as much as I hate to say it, deserves to go right on out the door this week. I do still like him but I also still do not 'get' him LOL The only hope he has at this point is to WIN. I don't trust Liztin to keep him over Steve, no matter what he 'deals' them or doesn't. So I hope he wakes up with a new realization and plays his hardest for that POV.

I know a lot of us are disappointed in those left in the game and have all but given up (or have totally given up) ...I've felt like saying 'bump it' as well ...but three things: one, this season (for me anyway) *has* been entertaining...the good, the bad and the ugly of it..so that makes me happy. Two, we've had the drama...MO DRAMA MAMAS UNITE!

Three, in the end it's just a TV show..and in the grand scheme of things, doesn't really matter/affect me that much so I can just let it all go no matter what.

Plus, I'm a stubborn one..I have to watch/see something through to the end just because it'll drive me nuts if I don't.

On top of all that ^^^ ...no matter what happens in that House...here at BBU I love to hang out and enjoy all of your company

Okay....so looking forward to seeing how the POV comp turns out today but for now, I gotta go walk Brax (my four legged 'kid') and get some 'chores' done.. I'll 'see' you guys later on in the day!

**KeninVA** · 09-12-2015, 07:24 AM

Morning Fan and all who follow,

Vanessa nominated Steve and Jmac. Jmac put a deal on the table to throw the PoV to Liz and Austin, in exchange for voting Steve out. Austin will tell Vanessa about the offer today. I don't expect him to take the deal, and I will be shocked if Jmac actually throws the PoV.

Nothing to see until after PoV, and Vanessa's plan should not change. Jmac is a better boot, but getting out Steve will maximize her chances for winning the F4 PoV.

**crissykins** · 09-12-2015, 07:38 AM

I don't like them but I hope Liz & Austin end up final 2 putting Vanessa out 3rd. Serves them all right for letting them stay in the game so long.

**Myragirl** · 09-12-2015, 07:52 AM

Hi everyone, even as a Vanessa fan it was hard to watch her second talk with Austin where she flipped from Austin and Liz to JMac and Steve. I wanted Austin gone this week because 1. I'm over Liztin (pls evict one of them this week to put me out of my misery), 2. Austin is my least favorite HG this season, which is a huge feat considering that I have been unable to forgive Jeff for his comments about Jackie being easy.

More importantly, I wanted JMac to remain in the game. I still enjoy his sound bites in the DR, especially when compared to the manufactured crab from Austin. It amazing how fast things change in the game. Just last week we were talking about how JMac was the safest in the house because Liztin was targeting Steve/Vanessa. Vanessa won't be the strategist she is, if she didn't notice John's appeal to the other HGs. She is trying to get a F2 seat, just like with Meg, why would she not take out another competitor for the seat?

My heart goes out to all the JMac fans, and ADC fans who have put their hopes in JMac. I understand your frustrations, because I have been in your shoes repeatedly in previous seasons. But it's not over until Julie says the magic words so don't lose hope. In fact, a Steve/JMac POV win spells Mo Drama, so hold on tight even though it's a bumpy ride.

My ideal F3 is Vanessa/Steve/JMac. Just based on the HGs I like the most. HOWEVER, I can totally see how that's NOT Vanessa's F3. There are 2 scenarios where she doesn't make F2 - either JMac/Steve winning the final HoH. Neither of them will take her. That's the fact, so she's trying to change that. Unfortunately, a favorite, JMac is in her way. We can't hate her for playing to win. It isn't personal for her. None of her targets have ever been personal. Also, I truly believe that JMac is a puzzle to her. The control freak in her won't let her allow an uncontrollable variable like him to stay in the game. Plus, I have said it before, JMac incessant need to throw competitions might come back to bite him in the butt. I hope he can win the PoV to preserve himself, but if he throws it based on some conversation with Austin/Liz, he 100% deserves to go to jury. He should know that their worst case scenario is either him or Steve winning, either going up, Vanessa being the deciding vote who then evicts one of them.

**Millitarymom** · 09-12-2015, 08:01 AM

Boooooooo...so not happy with BB right now

**Livzee** · 09-12-2015, 08:39 AM

An Ariana Grande concert with Frankie... That is barf, absolute barf. So these miserable characters are left, 2 of my least favorite go out for THAT?

**Millitarymom** · 09-12-2015, 08:45 AM

Why can't they listen to the fans and know who we like and who we NEVER want to see again

**CubbyBrother** · 09-12-2015, 08:57 AM

Somebody with a shred of Big Brother knowledge PLEASE help me!

An Arianna Grande concert with Frankie? Are you kidding me?

Somebody please explain the CBS infatuation with Frankie. Is there a shred of evidence that supports any forward contact with Frankie. In 17 seasons he easily ranks at the top (or bottom) on my most likeable houseguests of all time. I cannot see ANY demographic other than 13-15 youtube followers even wanting to look at that human. He consistently ranked at the bottom of polls last year. I just don't get it. Please, someone show me tangible proof that he is worthy of ONE millisecond of air time on any form of media in a demographic worthwhile.

I have a 15 year old daughter who can't stand him----and I just chalked that up to what I thought was good parenting...but after hearing that this was the "luxury" I begin to question myself.

Believe me, I know that is only opinion and would really like to see someone come up with another angle on this.

Mr. Pectacular is bad enough--the recurring nightmare, but Frankie is seriously enough for me to miss my first episode in 17 seasons.

Please, any pyschotherapy is welcome at this point!!

**ABG398** · 09-12-2015, 09:11 AM

WHYYY did Austin immediately decide to run to Vanessa and tell her what JMac said?? Him and Liz seemed intrigued by the idea that he stays over steve and goes after van. Plus.. Out of the 'couples' it seems obv that since Austin wants to be at xmas dinner w Liz, theres NO WAY he goes to f2 w Vanessa instead.
Ugh... Austin is just.. Ugh..

**Millitarymom** · 09-12-2015, 09:11 AM

I would love to sit down with Julie and tell her what WE really want

**Ellee1** · 09-12-2015, 09:33 AM

CBS/BB get a bigger rise out of us when they do the opposite of what we want.

**BettyBoo** · 09-12-2015, 09:51 AM

As the King states in The King and I: It is a puzzlement.

The player Vanessa can most easily win against is John, so of course she must get him out. The two people most likely to chose each other are Austin and Liz, so of course she doesn't break them up. Steve only wants to take his Teddy bear and mommy to the end, so she's assuming he'll take her, but he's not a conventional thinker.

She's gambling on John going, then Steve winning next HOH and breaking up Austin and Liz, followed by either Steve or herself winning final HOH, taking each other. Or is she secretly hoping John wins POV, so she can break up the pair now to preserve Steve? And who's to say if Austin and Liz wouldn't vote out Steve if the noms stay the same, since they could view him as more dangerous. My head spins with the options with these counterintuitive players.

She has been good at picking out her minions, but ever so often a minion rebels and thinks for themselves. John's offer to lose the POV certainly startled everyone. Until the Veto comp is over, well have no clue of her next game move (if needed). I would think Liz would be the next hit, so she would have 2 jury votes built in, but maybe Vanessa assumes that's the only 2 votes?

Oh, dear Lord, I have Vanessa Fever now that my brain won't stop thinking of all the possibilities. My eyes are bulging. I can't stop fake crying. I have breakouts. And, worst if all, I have a secret need to wear an ugly A$$ green knit cap!!!

Better than Austinitis which includes pit cysts, body stink and delusions of grandeur. Or Liz Syndrome which makes you perform public sex acts and scream, 'I knoooooooooow', when you have no clue what you know or don't know. Or John Opposum Disease that makes you role up in a limp ball during competitions. Or Steve Onesie Addiction that makes an adult man want his Mommy to change his nappie.

I need to take my meds which consist of a big bowl of every flavor of Ben and Jerry. It will lower my temperature and sooth my stomach from thinking about these numbskulls. It's only a game, it's only a game. Per Sgt B it's not important like football, ya know.

**TTOTambz2** · 09-12-2015, 10:34 AM

Good Morning All,

Betty..................You made my day! I laughed out loud several times reading your post.

JMac's offer to throw POV is stunning! Can't imagine why he believes he could ever trust anyone remaining in that house except Steve. One would hope JMac's offer is just him trying to get Liztin to back off so he can win. Also JMac can't control Steve GUNNING to win (which he will) & that could change everything.

I'm still not convinced Vanessa didn't nom the Rock Stars to lull Liztin into being comfortably numb.

Let's hope it is either a physical POV or a How Bad Do You Want It Comp & that one of the Rock Stars wins (ideally JMac). If it's HBDYWI we know Liz will just take rewards & I'm not sure Austin would take any punishments either. That comp also offers the most potential for Vanessa to self implode if Liztin force her into having to take all the punishments to win veto and/or she is forced into putting someone else on the block!

Haven't been getting what I wanted AT ALL lately, but I do hope if it's HBDYWI. Liz said she heard they were building in the Have Not Room so they could be setting up the confinement room. Steve would have to be sent to an insane asylum if he got that & Vanessa wouldn't fair much better. So there would be good odds of JMac taking that punishment. Also, there's no way with Vanessa not being able to play for HOH at F4 that she would take can't play POV therefore again I could see JMac taking that punishment and likely need just one more punishment (maybe a unitard) to guarantee him the POV Obviously if he took those 3 he'd have to gun for HOH just so he was safe next week. I honestly can't imagine either of Liztin would take confinement, can't play Veto or slop for rest of summer so this comp has the most potential for a Rock Stars POV win coupled with a Vanessa losing her mind afterwards.

If JMac doesn't win I sure hope he pulls out the Taxi Driver they all keep referring to him as to scare Vanessa telling her if she forces his eviction he will taint the entire jury against her & there won't be time for one of her minions to fix it. He should also tell her what Julia told him so he will utilize her to reinforce whatever he plans on telling them. Vanessa would be beside herself if he pulled this stunt.

Soooooooooooooo as Ken says nothing much can be done until after POV today but let's cross our fingers its HBDYWI & JMac wins it. Certainly would be fun seeing Vanessa scramble post veto to make amends with JMac after promising to take him to F2 & then making him the target. Plus there's the most potential for Mo Drama if Liztin only take rewards (which they would) & it would also give Vanessa all the ammo she needs to not only re-nom one of them but to target one of them.

Finally, if JMac DOES throw the POV I don't believe he deserves to be in the house or to win fan favorite b/c constantly throwing POV/HOH comps isn't something I want to reward! (so I hope he doesn't). Besides I want him to make a F2 chair AND I want James to win fan favorite.

P.S. Austin's is showcasing some pretty serious character flaws (even more so than normal). Hearing how he went at Liz asking if people hit on her showcases just how insanely jealous he will be in the outside world with her. Further his need for fame is exhausting AND SAD! He kept asking Liz if Frankie talked about him (he's in for a really big rude awakening). And finally running to tell Vanessa about JMac's offer had me thinking they got rid of the mice but the biggest RAT is still in the house!

**cutencuddly** · 09-12-2015, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by Ellee1

CBS/BB get a bigger rise out of us when they do the opposite of what we want.

Yup. You nailed it. The more we hate someone, they more they say "we have a winner!"

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