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**KennyERJ** · 09-15-2015, 07:27 AM

Good Morning, everyone! Still no credible leaks or info about who got evicted yesterday, huh?

**Shan** · 09-15-2015, 07:47 AM

Mornin' Kenny and all BBU'rs coming by to check in

Haven't seen anything credible, Kenny :/ boo-hiss! Sure hope we have nice things tonight

Hate I didn't ever make it back to hang out here yesterday/last night...after I got home I was feeling rather icky so I crawled into bed and pretty much stayed there doing a lot of nothing. Just waking up this morning and feeling a *little* better..not sure what it is, just don't feel so great. I feel feverish, chilled and kinda nauseated.

Anyhoooo...I'll be around on & off throughout the day so I'll "see" y'all ..have a great day y'all!!

Oh and calling all Fantasy Game players...don't forget to get your answers in for the current Round!! Remember we have schedule changes & Special Eviction so this Round closes tonight!

Stop by HERE to throw those darts!

**Blogzie** · 09-15-2015, 08:04 AM

Hope you feel lots better @BBFanShan!

I've been checking around for any possible leaks but so far have come up with nothing. Twitter is all atwitter about the news of Miss Cleo, but that's about it.

**KeninVA** · 09-15-2015, 08:11 AM

Morning Kenny, Fanshan, and all who follow,

No info has leaked. After going back and looking at all the convo's leading up to the blackout, I am going to revise down the likelihood of an Austin boot to 50/50. Jmac, and Vanessa are just too good at lying, and since it seems self evident that for her, keeping Austin in the game is definitively better for her game, giving her a 92 percent chance of entering the F3, versus a 50 percent chance, I just find it hard to believe she takes such a high risk path, for a lower potential payoff. Yes, Steve is easier to beat in the end, but only marginally so, with no assurance, at this gate, that Jmac is available to boot.

What I am sure of, is Jmac reassured her, he is rational, (he would not kamikaze her out, to face the showmance alone), and she needs to make sure, Liz especially, knows Jmac cannot be trusted to do anything he says, and is more dangerous then her in a F3. Getting him to vote out Austin, accomplishes both those goals.

The flaw in her analysis with Jmac, in the second convo, that with Austin in, THEY only have a 50/50 chance of breaking up the duo, while accurate, does not reflect HER self interest, which is (or should be) to maximize her odds of being in F3. Booting Steve does that, where as booting Austin really only gives her at best a 50/50 chance of being in the F3. I know her history as a poker player is to take risk, but the gamble seems over sized, for the potential payoff.

In any event, we don't know anything, and probably won't until the show tonight.

**zoziemom** · 09-15-2015, 09:00 AM

Now, Ken, why'd you have to go burst my bubble like that! I have been gleefully planning for Austin-free feeds all night! Come on, Vanessa and JMAC, keep Steve! The whole house will breath easier, and so will I!

**kokomogirl** · 09-15-2015, 09:03 AM

Yeah, Ken, why'd you have to start my BB day with such terrible thoughts. I understand what you're saying and I might agree a little bit but I too want Austin free feeds.

**TTOTambz2** · 09-15-2015, 09:34 AM

Morning All,

Ken, I did consider Vanessa was just trying to trap JMac & I do appreciate how you see the board. BUT I don't know that she sees it that way.

Entering F4 she can only play POV & will be looking at 3 things:
1) who would save her at F4
2) who would take her at F3
3) and who she can win against at F2

1) Though she is looking at questions 2 & 3 in the long term her immediate risk is at F4. Why would she chance entering F4 with JMac pissed at her still unsure if Austin would save her? Let's not forget JMac generally just tells it like it is, so he would just tell Austin she wanted you gone & must have changed her mind plus he'll out Austin was the real target at F6 (that Vanessa wanted him out hence why she had Julia pick him to play in POV). Further in that scenario all JMac has to do is win one of the 2 comps & her chances of getting evicted skyrocket.

Where I see the glitch in the plan is if JMac keeps Austin which only helps his cause.

2) If she believes Steve (on his Mom) taking out Austin gives her guaranteed F2 with two people & a workable JMac if he goes through with this plan.

3) Examining scenario 3 the one person I think she fears sitting beside is Austin as he has solid jury relationships & will try to take credit for the twins. Vanessa will say SHE is the reason but Austin will counter and it's likely jury perception would lean towards him given the showmance. Besides no matter what Austin says to her she knows Liztin take each other with the choice.

With Austin gone what can Steve & Liz counter to her strategic moves especially since she was the main reason they are still in the game. She may even believe she has JMac beaten though he might be able to win if he takes one or two more comps. Further she PROMISED Steve he wasn't leaving. Steve arriving at jury with solid information of her lying would only serve to hurt her whole integrity/honesty angle.Further she knows he holds a grudge so he could work the jury against her.

Prior to her JMac conversation she sat listening to Liztin talking about why no one but them deserved to be in the game & I felt she saw again how closely tied Liztin are. Austin continually talks to JM so I could see Vanessa thinking the couple may lean toward taking her out at F4 given the opportunity.

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Every time Vanessa has been HOH she has left it in better shape than she went in, so it makes sense to me taking out Austin accomplishes more of the 3 goals. Obviously part of my opinion is based on her believing Steve is a more viable option (& more truthful to her) than Austin/Liztin. I just don't see her burning JMac to take a chance of having someone angry at her heading into F4. Sure Liz may be upset, but that will be an easier fix and Vanessa will believe Austin won't be vengeful in jury like Steve. She didn't promise Austin safety she promised Steve!

Sure, I could be willing this to be true, but I do feel she wants Austin gone more than Steve. Guess we'll find out soon.

**NazcarLover24** · 09-15-2015, 09:39 AM

Can anyone tell me the code thingy to make the pretty purple💜color {Like the color💜of this Purple💜Heart 💜}? It's not “Purple” that's a kool-aid purple, I want the neon-ish Purple. Orrrrrrr maybe more than one purple option mayhaps?!??
💜💚💜💚💜💚💜💚💜💚💜💚💜💚💜💚💜💚💜💚
Pretty please, with cream and sugar on it?

Or how bout I just go yank Austink out by his non washed hair {Cause I REFUSE to touch his nasty UN-washed hands! Ughhhhh sooooo Gross!} and take his smelly but to an undisclosed location that has nothing but soap, shampoo, and water for miles around.
🎩🔫🛁🚿
Thanks y'all☺️
💜Love You.... Mean it💜

**NazcarLover24** · 09-15-2015, 09:41 AM

OMG......... I almost forgot!!!!!

Shout out to @Nikola Poe

Lmao, I'm a funny girllllll 😅

**TTOTambz2** · 09-15-2015, 10:28 AM

And now for something completely different......................................... ............(and for all you anti Austinites)

There was a twitter post of a letter supposedly from Austin's ex girlfriend where she slams him (personally I doubt it is written by her). The letter has NOT been verified but here it is in it's entirety:

Dear Aust,

I am writing you this letter and sending it through social media in hopes it will give you something to hold on to in those upcoming cold and lonely nights. I am sorry it has taken me so long to "do" the friends we have met in our relationship (especially Mike). Your main goal in sticking out in this Big Brother show was to create business connections and enjoy adventures. You have received many calls already. Red Lobster would like you to promote their annual Crabfest and KFC is also interested in a new "Finger Licking Good" campaign to promote a new garlic cheese sauce.

The last few weeks without you have meant the world to me, and I want nothing more than to continue my amazing adventures without you. I understand you have a lot to think about now that I am gone. You have several new charges listed on the credit card you left me (now maxed and declined most everywhere). I believe in my heart I will be much stronger with that 3 weeks spent in Cancun because of it.

As far as the show goes I am glad you went out of your comfort zone and stuck it in there! You certainly tried your best to win it, and I want you to know that society has renamed what you call "Class" and "Honor". Just search Hashtag #Fingergate to see some of the new terms and ways people refer to it now. I am so very happy that we agree on what embarrassment is and as time passes perhaps your buddies from the gym will show you some of the pictures we took.

I have watched every live show and spotted every "Jen ok sign" that lets me know how much you have been thinking of me. My personal favorite was when you went around the kitchen touching everyone's food, cups and plates with your now famous fingers. I knew right there and then just how much you were thinking of me, but others as well.

My, how time flies, I focused on it each day. Three months was actually enough time though to sell your items, screw your friends and find a new place (although I will miss your Mom's cooking). I held Theo, Tickle and Pickle tight ... perhaps too tight? Something tells me you will be just fine without them too.

Forever Gone,

Jen

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As mentioned it's veracity is not proven, though I think it is someone taking the piss out of Austin. Whoever wrote it certainly did hit on certain aspects of his character or hot spots if you will. It's plausible anyone could have written it since he's talked about his dogs and gym friends on the show. Obviously the writer is speaking to his jealousies and also really hitting hard on fingergate. I think I threw up a little in my mouth just thinking about having to live with someone who won't wash their hands touching things of mine, but in Austin's case it's even more vile.

I had vacillated back & forth on him, but reading on here the past few days of him "doing things" then looking at the camera to add effect & also not being honest with Liz about what gets seen by live feeders in the bedroom left me on the down side of him. I do still maintain any girl in her right mind would have checked with DR to confirm what was true. And, though I find his actions disgusting I'm also in the camp that Liz must partially share in the negative lash back especially because she made a point of first hitting on Jace, then Jeff prior to settling on Austin (who coincidentally she also tried to trash on live TV initially). She could have taken the high road to simply NOT participate in those activities. Overall the twins were mean and catty at times & moreover acted entitled all things which would have easily been forgotten leaving us with funny recall of their antics and speech patterns had it not been for Liztin. In truth I feel the worst for Julia who by no fault of her own will be tied to this debacle post show.

Anyway, I know there are many who aren't fans of Austin so I thought I'd share what's happening on Twitter with you regarding what Liztin can expect upon their exit.

**cutencuddly** · 09-15-2015, 11:28 AM

For what it's worth, I think I finally understand the Vanessa fandom.

I don't share it. But I think I understand it. She's smart and accomplished and playing the game hard and you're able to overlook the things which stand out like sore thumbs to the non-fans.

I imagine that in future years, when I become more sophisticated about the gameplay and less into it for the social, I could be a fan of someone like Vanessa.

That shouldn't need saying, but it has taken me this long to step away from my disdain to view her as someone who can't help that BB made such an unbalanced cast and she's playing the cards she's dealt.

**Squishy** · 09-15-2015, 11:48 AM

I am not a fan of Survivorsucks.com (mostly because of the language) but there is a really funny thread called Austin's Romantical Handies: The NOT-AT-ALL Creepy Relationship Report. It does have the gifs of Austin eyebrow wiggly at the camera. I do like that production doesn't like Austin. Lately, they do close ups of Austin chewing which is disgusting and his dirty feet when lying in bed. I like it when the cameraman doesn't like who I don't like

**BettyBoo** · 09-15-2015, 11:52 AM

John should assume Liz will vote out Steve, so he should vote out Austin. That forces Vanessa to make her choice public. No matter which way she goes, she sends a peeved ally to Jury. Austin has more friends than Steve, so could turn votes away from her if he's in Jury and it gives Liz two built-in votes. But leave Austin in and he's still more tied to Liz than he will be to Vanessa or John.

She has to gamble that the other three will shoot at each other and not her and a solid pair is more tempting to break up. Or will her scalp be just too tempting? In the end, she can't control what will happen, since she only has a 17% chance of winning her way to Final Three.

Leave Austin in and John has an alternative target to her, so I can see that she could would dump Steve. But, dumping Austin could give her Liz as girl power partner against the guys, IF Liz doesn't stay angry at her for the vote.

Yep, my head is blowing up as much as I'm sure Vanessa' s was with all the plus' s and minus's. I won't be surprised either way, but still think she'll break up the last real pair to duke it out with John and Steve. The fun will be to watch all the faces when she has to face the noms and say the evictee's name. TV magic, I do believe.

Then Johnny, please win the HOH.

**sofieckcs** · 09-15-2015, 12:15 PM

I keep thinking about the trios votes in jury. I haven't heard the HG's talk about it very much though. It seems to me you need to take Austin out now. You can leave Liz in till final three then take her out. You can't leave Austin or Liz in final two or they will automatically have two jury votes. I can't imagine that Vanessa, Steve or JMac would want to take someone with an automatic 2 jury votes with them to final 2.

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