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  • Live Feed Discussion-July 14

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  • #2
    I see Audrey is following her usual MO. Now that the veto ceremony is over and the replacement is not her she is spreading her poison. Vanessa has diarrhea of the mouth and is giving her way too much information. They know she does this stuff and then they still get sucked in.

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    • nonobadfish
      nonobadfish commented
      Editing a comment
      Yesterday, geo, Audrey told Shelli that she trusts her more than she trusts Vanessa and wants to make sure Shelli and Clay know that they shouldn't trust Vanessa too much. Then she says close to the same story to Vanessa, except the other way. She's going to get caught out again...it's just too easy.

      And Vanessa needs to seriously re-think aligning with her (the others know). Even if it's just in words only, it's a bad move for Vanessa's game.

  • #3
    Becky really wants to be relevant in the game. She tries so hard to make people think she's a player and is being targeted. smh Sorry Becky, you're just fodder right now. Do something.

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    • #4
      Morning all! Vanessa has just added the crowning touch to her already crazy HoH reign...she proposed to Audrey that they be the female ChillTown. She's officially lost her mind.

      I wonder....has Vanessa convinced herself that Audrey really didn't make up any lies? That Jeff started it all and Audrey is blameless? That's what she was saying yesterday and I think maybe she's using selective memory and believing it. Gracious.
      Last edited by nonobadfish; 07-14-2015, 06:34 AM.

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      • #5
        Morning Geo, Nono, and all who follow,

        Jeff is on the block, and is the likely boot, getting at most 3 potential votes (Jmac, Jackie, and Audrey). Jeff is campaigning hard, but will likely come up short, thinking he has a shot with Clay/Vanessa and Liz/Austin. The reality is both Austin and Shay were the primary movers in his nomination, and will not rethink his exit from the game (nor should they).

        Vanessa continues her downward spiral, seeing twins in every HG now, (the latest is Jeff), and has started to reveal alot of info about her game to Audrey, who is as loyal as the scorpion from the Scorpion and Frog fable. I would chalk it up to game, if she was revealing more to Shelli, as a way to build trust with her, but because she keeps it all under wraps, it seems to me to be a sincere game move. Audrey will likely be Vanessa's downfall in the game (it's just how BB karma works, no one knows why. It's a mystery.)

        Jackie seems to not have a very good read on the house, talking about Vanessa drawing a line in the sand, and her side of the house is way larger. The Cliq (Jason, Meg, James, Jeff, Jackie) seem unable to grasp the tenuous position they are in, and don't seem to realize they are a rapidly dwindling group, and in the event of a power shift, will have to make smart plays to break the F & G, Silent Six, which is fracturing slightly, due to Audrey's passing poison pills, and planting seeds of suspicion with that inner group.

        Meanwhile, Austin and Liz are making plans to break trust, and reveal the Twin's secret to Jmac/Becky as a way to build trust, by admitting what they already know. This has high risk, as Becky/Jmac are likely to tell Shelli/Clay, which will destroy the little trust they have with Austin, and confirm for Shelli what Audrey is trying to point out.

        At this point, the Silent Six is starting to look like the proverbial crabs in a bucket, pulling each other down as each tries to crawl up the edge and position themselves for safety in the event of a power shift. Audrey understands this, and feeds the paranoia and jealousy, in order to sow chaos and distrust, her preferred house environment.

        Jeff campaigning, and Silent Six continueing to try to build relationships will be the primary focus of today's feeds. Along with Audrey slithering through the house, offering apples.

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        • JJJohnston
          JJJohnston commented
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          Would love for JohnnyMac to win HoH and ask people to be his pawns. That would be BB justice.

          Edit: Whoops meant to comment on TTO. Hi Ken!

      • #6
        Morning Ken and all,

        Only thing I noticed to add to Ken's bang on analysis is Jeff is already suspicious of Clay and it finally seems he may realize that Clay/Shelli are the people who likely sold him out. Hints why he knows this:

        * In a discussion with Clay yesterday Jeff said "I can see why you are trusting her with your whole game" (meaning Vanessa) and also told Clay someone is leaking information b/c there is no way Vanessa would know certain info otherwise. Then when he asked Clay who was better for his game after Clay responded "you tend to not own up to things", Jeff said you're making it sound like I don't have your vote! Clay back peddled.

        * Jeff told Jackie about his final 3 with Shlay and said if they don't vote for me don't trust them

        * And in various convo's with JMac he's hinting the same thing

        Ken, I'd agree about the Audrey factor and as per my last 2 posts I anticipated this would occur based on how Vanessa set up Jeff's oust, Audrey is just helping to move it along.

        But, with Jeff getting closer to learning about Clay's treason I think he will out Shlay being in several alliances with him, I don't know if he's smart enough to recognize he needs to not name JMac/Jackie being in that alliance or it will also hurt their games. It's likely he will out the F3 he has with Shlay even if it's on his way out the door.

        My question is will Jackie then talk to Jason/Meg/James/JMac/Becky to highlight Clay/Shelly are lying to EVERYONE to focus the target on them?

        For now I'll wait to see if Jeff does anything exciting or if Audrey continues to provide more entertainment value until Thursday (when I will start chanting mid day PRAYING for Jason to win one HOH & any combo of someone NOT in Sixth Sense). As per my post yesterday I have this major wish for JMac to win with Jason & for them to ask Shelli/Vanessa to throw BOTB! Maybe if I keep sending it out into the universe it will become reality.

        Okay off to do my daily NBA updates/articles. Everyone have a great day.

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        • #7
          Vanessa is being so paranoid that I just couldn't make myself watch the feeds yesterday. Every time I turned them on she was there. I have now shifted to liking Audrey. Didn't think I ever would say that.

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          • #8
            Jeff & Liz made it to TMZ Live yesterday. Apparently it looked like Jeff was possibly masturbating in bed with Liz. TMZ says it has been all over the Internet and LFeeders can't stand Jeff because of it. Now, I have NOT read everything in these forums. Did I missed something? Anyone else hear or see something?

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            • amykaybb
              amykaybb commented
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              I just looked it up on TMZ and it literally could of been anything he could of been rubbing his stomach, his leg, her.. You can't tell cause it's all under the covers. And if course people will want to think the worst

          • #9
            Just putting some markers down. If Audrey votes to evict James, and Jeff still goes, she will be three for three in NOT voting out the evictee. I wonder if she is practicing, for an ending where she tells the majority of the jury, i worked to get you out, but did not have any hand in your departure, since I did not vote to send you out of the house. Just a thought.

            Second marker, Vanessa ended up nominating 3 guys. If she survives another week with another guy going out, she could start to make a case, on the block against a guy, for the girls to preserve her. We might actually see a F5 or F6 of all women.

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            • OutOfTheDarkness
              OutOfTheDarkness commented
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              Na.. Meg will boot her the first chance she gets. Think Becky & Jackie would do the same. Nominating guys will not be her saving grace among the ladies.

            • KeninVA
              KeninVA commented
              Editing a comment
              I don't think it saves her, but I wonder if that is the argument she makes, or at least one of them. I am not sure Becky boots her, but Jackie and Meg for sure. Except, Meg will not likely make HoH anytime soon, and Jackie will have to contend with BoB.

            • Delvoire
              Delvoire commented
              Editing a comment
              Idk if Audrey could stand on that, not yet. She would need to actually have a hand in their ousting, she really only has had input in Jace's boot. Da was a total Clay move and Jeff seems to really be a Vanessa/Austin one. Yes Audrey helped to plant those anti Jeff seeds for Austin early in the game, but I think that's just a natural mismatch anyway.

          • #10
            Originally posted by nonobadfish
            Morning all! Vanessa has just added the crowning touch to her already crazy HoH reign...she proposed to Audrey that they be the female ChillTown. She's officially lost her mind.

            I wonder....has Vanessa convinced herself that Audrey really didn't make up any lies? That Jeff started it all and Audrey is blameless? That's what she was saying yesterday and I think maybe she's using selective memory and believing it. Gracious.
            Some people think her irrational emotionalism act is just that -- an act. But if it is, it's a really good one. It has fooled me. She seems to be truly be irrational and driven by a deep need to believe in Audrey. Give the girl an Oscar if that's an act.

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            • #11
              Originally posted by pburnsie
              Jeff & Liz made it to TMZ Live yesterday. Apparently it looked like Jeff was possibly masturbating in bed with Liz. TMZ says it has been all over the Internet and LFeeders can't stand Jeff because of it. Now, I have NOT read everything in these forums. Did I missed something? Anyone else hear or see something?

              pburnsie, it looked like it from the angle most people saw. Looked like he was putting something on her shoulder. From another angle which was released after the controversy broke it could be seen that the stain he spoke of on her shoulder was already there.

              Could be he was just scratching himself. Whatever it was, it was small motions, visible on one camera but not the other.

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              • amyspen
                amyspen commented
                Editing a comment
                But then, when Liz told the story, she said when she took off the shirt there was nothing on it. She used it as more evidence that he was trying to catch her as the twin. I'm not sure if this was before or after Austin got mad at her for being in the same bed as Jeff, claiming that Jeff might lift her shirt to look for the birthmark.

                It's a weird situation, and I tend to think it was more innocent than some other people think. Jeff walking around talking about masturbating in the bed (not that moment, just in general) doesn't help his case a lot though.

            • #12
              pburnsie

              Jeff has been pegged as a pig well before this incident. I would say the video speaks for itself, but people will believe whatever they want as, IMHO, I can see it both ways.

              What is not being told is this happened at the height of trying to figure out the twin twist. This was his stupid ploy to try to get a peek at Julia/Liz’s upper back to see if the birthmark was there.
              He said to her, “you have a stain on your shirt” in an effort to see her back.

              Now, what has not been mentioned is something I heard myself on the feeds (sorry, don’t have the time stamp) by Liz during a briefing by V or Austin as they were explaining that the house is looking for birthmarks, pimples, etc. Liz said, about Jeff, something to effect of “he tried to say I had a stain on my shirt and when I checked later, there was no stain at all.” It made perfect sense to her that he was lying about a stain to look for the birthmark.

              My point is there never was a stain on her shirt, but people are running with it putting 2 and 2 together and not realizing they got 5.

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              • cutencuddly
                cutencuddly commented
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                Did you see the second camera angle? There was definitely a smudge on the shirt at the spot Jeff was pointing to.

            • #13
              Lexie, wasn't it you who posted the link to the second camera angle, the one showing Jeff's view of Liz's shirt? Do you have that handy?

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              • joebourg62
                joebourg62 commented
                Editing a comment
                7/9 8:21 PM Cam 4

                I see it. Spank, yes. Wipe, no.
                I don't know why Liz would say that then.

                OK, I just transcribed the whole thing and put in the the LF Flashback thread as a comment under Lexie's post.
                Spanking is confirmed.
                Last edited by joebourg62; 07-14-2015, 12:34 PM.

              • cutencuddly
                cutencuddly commented
                Editing a comment
                ..... thanks!

            • #14
              Clay and Shelli pillow talk.

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              • amykaybb
                amykaybb commented
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                This made me laugh out loud!

              • herms is here
                herms is here commented
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                Me too. I turned on the feeds today just to see them cuddling on the couch. Had to turn it off.

            • #15
              Clay,
              From one former College Football Player to another…..RUN, DUDE! The Siren has you in her grips!!

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